A/C Window unit 10K

[MikeL]

this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs, but you can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the internal overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a compressor.. But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high pressure, and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to check the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I don't want to put any money in it) Thanks for your advise!

[<kjpro]

Low on refrigerant causing high pressure problems?????

"but I don&#39;t want to put any money in it"

Wouldn&#39;t the tap cost money? :-)

BTW, do you hold an EPA card? If not, your not allowed to work on the sealed system.

[Telstra]

[Clark]

MikeL wrote in news:1185668049.818130.307350 @g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

External overload? internal overload? Whatinthehell are you trying to describe? There are no "overload" switches in an A/C. A unit may have high and low pressure switches but "overloads," no.

Clean the filter and the ice will stop forming on the evaporator. The unit will perform normally after that (until the filter gets dirty again).

[<kjpro]

Try telling Copeland, Tecumseh, Bristol, Danfoss, Carlyle, etc that their compressors have no &#39;overloads&#39;. LOL

But what if, its not the filter?

[Clark]

wrote in news:31f36$46acc01b$9440c41e$17180 @STARBAND.NET:

They possibly have pressure limit and temperature limit switches not "overloads." None of those folks actually measure a compressor load, e.g. the work the compressor is performing. A breaker would come closer to be an actual overload switch...

But it most likely is, even if you didn&#39;t think of it.

[jim]

I agree clean and should run till dirty again window units rarely have overloads just temp shutdowns

[Stormin Mormon]

Ah, a real man. Would you use a Colt six shooter?

[Stormin Mormon]

Every window shaker AC I&#39;ve worked on has had an overload protector for the compressor. What&#39;s your source of information?

I&#39;ve never seen a high or low pressure limit switch in a window AC.

[Stormin Mormon]

The window AC I&#39;ve serviced have a protector that trips in case of high temperature of the compressor, or high amperage. What&#39;s your source of information? Is it dark in there?

[Stormin Mormon]

More likely a dirty condensor. Dissemble the unit and clean both coils.

Incidentally, please don&#39;t ever remove or bypass an overload protector. It&#39;s there to protect you.

[Clark]

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:46ad4c09 $0$32572$ [e-mail]:

Do you mean: other than working on systems what is your source of information?

What exactly is this "overload protector" measuring? There are breakers and there are fusible links. There are no actual compressor load protectors either internal or external that the orginal poster claimed.

[Stormin Mormon]

CY: I didn&#39;t say "other than", I asked the source of information. : : >

: > I&#39;ve never seen a high or low pressure limit switch in a window : > AC. : >

: What exactly is this "overload protector" measuring? There are breakers and : there are fusible links. There are no actual compressor load protectors : either internal or external that the orginal poster claimed.

CY: Amperage, and I believe also temperature. I&#39;m sure of amperage, though. Most compressors I service, the overloads are external. One brand (Copeland?) puts the overload internal. : : : -- : --- : there should be a "sig" here

[Stormin Mormon]

CY: I didn&#39;t say "other than", I asked the source of information. : : >

: > I&#39;ve never seen a high or low pressure limit switch in a window : > AC. : >

: What exactly is this "overload protector" measuring? There are breakers and : there are fusible links. There are no actual compressor load protectors : either internal or external that the orginal poster claimed.

CY: Amperage, and temperature. Most compressors I service, the overloads are external. One brand (Copeland?) puts the overload internal.

page about refrigerator overloads.

: : : -- : --- : there should be a "sig" here

[lp13-30]

AFAIK, all window units come with a 5 year compressor warranty-- some with P&L on the "sealed system". If the unit is actually no more than 1

1/2 y/o, first try and talk to the store mgr where the unit came from and see if they will just replace it. I have an old friend who bought a small unit from HD, and at just under 2 y/o the fan quit. He took the cover off and found that the whole bracket or whatever the fan assy was mounted to had rusted away. He took it back to HD and raised some hell and got a new unit. Good luck Larry

[Clark]

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:46ad7495$0$16531$ [e-mail]:

And I answered your question. Do you have some sort of problem?

And none of those devices actually measures load on the compressor. They infer load which is not the same thing. Does amperage equal load? No, of course not. Amperage *may* indicate load but it doesn&#39;t necessarily measure it. Got it?

The original poster described a condition typical of icing caused by low air flow through a dirty filter. Compressor load is most likely not an issue.

[lp13-30]

The OP said the compressor was overheating and cutting out on IOL. That is NOT caused by low air flow across the evaporator--due to a dirty filter or anything else. Low air flow across the condenser however is a distinct possibility. The OP said the unit is 1.5 y/o. I wonder if that was a typo, as he also said the unit was not worth spending money on. IMO, he should clean the condenser thoroughly and see if that makes any difference. If it doesn&#39;t and the unit is indeed 1.5 y/o he should check into the warranty as I suggested in a previous post. Otherwise, he shoud not mess with it and just go buy a new one and be done with it. Window a/cs have joined microwaves and vcrs as throwaways. They cost no more now than they did 30+ years ago. Larry

[Clark]

[e-mail] (lp13-30) wrote in news:25495-46AEA67D-22@storefull-

3156.bay.webtv.net:

No he didn&#39;t say that the compressor was overheating. Read it again.