Just a thought...
please don't drop it off at my place.
Hopefully, if you DO relocate th little pest, you will not be making a
problem for someone else.
That wasn't meant to be hurtful, it just occured to me.
| > Add Marmota monax to the growing list of urban wildlife. Anyone know
| > about the most humane way to deal with woodchucks? I've seen threads
| > about relocating squirrels and other critters, so maybe someone here
| > know.
| > Now, ordinarily I wouldn't care all that much if there was a woodchuck
| > nearby, but one has decided to take up residence in my garage! (It's an
| > garage with a gravel floor). I know where I can rent a live trap... is
| > anything I need to know about relocating? (I know plenty of
| > I could relocate it to). Are they territorial, and are they able to dig
| > own burrows quickly?
| A Hav-a-hart trap is a nice thing to own. I've captured and released
| numerous woodchucks, squirrels, possums and raccoons from mine. I take
| to a nearby state park. I would recommend getting the largest trap
| Mine is next to largest and I had to give up on a big raccoon. If animal
| too big for trap, it will not close. Some may tell you that relocating
| animal may endanger it. Me: I don't care ;)
To anyone suggesting this: Out Of The Question for a number of reasons:
1. I live in an URBAN area with high population density. That is to say, the
houses are all about 20-30 feet apart from each other. The buildings are so
close together there's a good chance of hitting someone else's property if a
gun were to be fired. (And you're suggesting I shoot a gun *inside* my
garage?) Shooting a gun (even a BB gun) is illegal within city limits. I don't
own a gun anyways, and buying one would be more expensive than buying a live
trap. Also, doing this myself would probably be quicker and cheaper than
2. I don't have the time or the patience to sit around waiting for the
animal(s) to appear.
3. I have no worries about the animal(s) reappearing on the property if
relocated a few miles away. There are so many cross-streets and busy city
intersections in between, would take nothing short of a miracle for a relocated
animal to return. (I live in a city with a population of 400,000, not out in
4. Rodents are not as likely to be vectors of rabies (FWIW raccoons and skunks
are not rodents).
5. The places I'm thinking of relocating to are not near farms or private
properties. There's a park in an area surrounded by commercial zoned,
corporate/light industrial parks and an abandoned shopping center. Woodchucks
and other wildlife have existed in this area for years; they come out in the
open, and if they were a problem I'm sure someone would have done something by
I think you're exagerating about the BB gun, but in any case, submerge
the live trap in a trashcan full of water, or take it to the lake or
river and throw it in (with a rope tied on so you can pull it back), or
call the city's Animal Control office and let them decide what to do
with it after you've caught it.
You shoot it *after it's in the trap*.
That's a good point.
It still might have the flu or leprosy or cooties or something, and
infect all the others that are currently living in the park.
Ask any cattle rancher or horse owner about woodchucks.
Unless you extirpate the beasts, they'll dig holes that can cripple
cattle and horses. Either shoot the woodchucks or shoot the cows or
horses after they break their legs. Your choice, ace.
J. Del Col
Yeah there's a slug of cattle ranchers posting to this thread.....
Actually the issue seems to be a pussy whipped husband with some
delusions about not killing immediately, rather the illogical moving
and slow death is preferred to continued whipping...
On 24 Sep 2004 08:12:23 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (J. Del Col)
It's a woodchuck, people. Not a great white. What's wrong with letting it
go in a non-residential area? Is it more manly to shoot it in his furry
little head? ::eyeroll::
The more people I meet, the more I like my dog....
Lori <--- not a PW'd husband
Because releasing is certain slow death, but a good solution for the
emotionally handicapped unwilling to take responsibility for their
actions. Certainly shooting the poor creature in the head would be far
How about just letting the critters whose territory you moved into
stay and learn to live?
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:25:35 -0400, "Stunk Pidasso"
Once I understood that for every groundhog that was shot/relocated, a new
one would move into the vacant (and lucrative for a groundhog) territory, I
changed my strategy. I put up chicken wire fencing around the parts of the
veggie garden that contain the most enticing plants. It act as a deterrent,
but not an absolute barrier. I then bribe the hog by placing kitchen scraps
it likes, such as melon rinds or corn cobs, at the edge of the compost pile,
which lies between its main burrow and the garden. I employ negative
reinforcement by running out screaming and stamping when I see it venturing
near the garden. And I let the some of the drops from the apple tree lay on
the ground to serve as fattening-up-for-the-winter food.
This year I lost two swiss chard plants and a good section of a row of peas
to the groundhog. They are understandably hungriest early in the growing
year. I admit to being annoyed about the peas, but not to the point where I
was ready to do something elaborate like burying fencing or electrifying it.
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
Zone 6, South-central PA
But seriously what is the downside to having a woodchuck under the
shed? That's where mine is. Other then eating my cantaloupes, and I
guess some of my tomatoes and cukes.
Actually, I should say woodchucks as it seems that he's got a girl
now. Will I be seeing little chucks next year? A chunk of chucks?
I don't mind all the rabbits and squirrels and chipmunks that are in
my yard. I don't really mind the woodchucks either, but I don't know
much about them. I do have some reservations about a herd of them.
I am surprised by how fast they are. Look like racehorses when they
head for the shed.
Heck yeah, who would want a little kid to learn anything about the
natural world his phobic parents feel compelled to shelter him/her
On 27 Sep 2004 11:45:08 -0700, email@example.com (J. Del Cool)
When you sober up you need to stop hugging trees and get between a
ground hog and his hole and see if you feel safe or threatened. I can
guarantee you will feel threatened and never do it again and never
suggest that other people do it either.
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