Plant a Garden, Get a Tax Break?
By Roger Doiron, AlterNet.
In recognition of planting season and the intersecting geopolitical
crises now upon us, I am proposing that home growers finally catch a
break. Not from bugs, weather, or clunky garden shoes, but from taxes.
It's not as silly an idea as it may sound. We give tax breaks to people
to encourage them to put hybrid cars in their garages and solar panels
on their roofs, so why not offer incentives for solar-powered, healthy
food production in their backyard?
It wouldn’t be the first time that our country encouraged its citizens
to grow some of their own food. The government’s wartime "Victory
Garden" campaign was a success by every measure. By 1943, 20 million
gardens were growing 8 million tons of food (an amount comparable to
that of the nation’s farms), and Americans were eating more healthy
fruits and vegetables than ever before.
More home gardens would offer us victory not only over rising food and
health care costs, but also foreign oil dependency and climate change.
Researcher estimate that locally-grown foods use up to 17 times less
climate-warming, fossil fuels than foods from away. And when it comes
to local foods, it doesn’t get any "localer" than one’s own yard.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:58:22 -0500, Charlie wrote:
I guess you don't watch Bill Moyer's Journal.
Very wealthy people are being given money NOT to farm on their land.
Nothing goes to the elderly farmer who still works dawn to dusk trying
to pay for his own farm, but to the very wealthy.
There is so much bullshit going on in this country and we still MUST
see CNN reporting on ridiculously irrelevant shit. My mind boggles.
Things are such as they are.
Still things are such as they are.
Never the less things remain such as they are.
Chinese philosophy stuff . From the time of warring states...sound
Our minds boggle. What to do?
Nothing can be done but every thing is possible.
I go with every day small actions.
Once think globally but act locally espoused.
Bill who is getting ready to steal my Dads compost about 30 or 40 yards.
Ps with his permission.
Too bad you didn't watch the whole program. It's not "ten-thou" and
it's not "a few farmers". Orders of magnitude greater. The total of
these kleptocratic subsidies is in the BILLIONS. That's with a "B".
And I fail to understand your logic that condescendingly opposes
dealing with one form of corruption because there are others, such as
the frivolous one you cite
You also ignore the key issue of US food subsidy impact on the rest of
I didn't address that issue in my original posting, but the fact is
that US taxpayer subsidies to crops like corn and sugar are
RUINOUS to farmers in the Third World, who can't compete with Uncle
Goliath's subsidized food shipping all over the world.
It's difficult for some to comprehend that we really ARE One World,
and that starving people in the Third World may not hold still for
our food hegemony when things get really dicey. Which they are
already, thanks to global warming.
If you had watched a little longer, you would have noticed that
Moyers' guest , an economist and minister, said 35,000,000
people ***in the US*** go hungry. Not all get food stamps, and for
those who do, their food stamps run out the third week of the month.
He suggests that some of the BILLION dollar subsidies paid to
millionaires via lobbyists might better go to augment food programs
so poor people could eat all month.
Still only ten thousand for a given farmer, on average, so if you're
committed to this, be committed to admitting you begrudge a few farmers a
rather small amount of money, as well as begruding the entire budget only
a percentage of which will farmers ever see. This at a time when the same
people "fighting" this outrage are also fighting to cut school lunches and
veteran benefits in this list of "waste."
An impact that shrinks to insignificance next to transferring food
resources to "bio fules."
So which bothers you most, that the US doesn't produce ENOUGH food because
of tax give-aways to farmers to stop growing it, or the US producing TOO
MUCH food so that we keep giving it to undeserving skanks in the Sahara
desert who should PAY for it from growers closer to home? If you want to
mix applecarts with little red wagons, why not worry a bit more about the
TRILLIONS wasted on killing people & getting our own people killed in
I already knew that. We don't all rely on one tv show for basic knowledge.
Yep, and the same representatives who are trying to stop farm subsidy want
to stop the waste of too many people getting food stamps.
So the "answer" to the problem remains relying on the same beurocratic
system that got us where we're at. Seems like that's as close to giving up
as you'll ever get.
-paghat the ratgirl
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:23:01 -0700, Persephone wrote:
Nah....I was just playin' out the line a bit. ;-)
I gleaned this sometime ago. T'would appear to me that she looks down
on humanity in general. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only
one noticing this.
Damn right. The strawman technique she employees has become quite
tiresome. Kinda reminds one of a rodeo clown, making all the fuss over
here to distract from the big deal going down over there.
Oh well, like they say, ya' fuck with the bulls long enough and you'll
get the horns.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:02:27 -0700, email@example.com
Nice strawman again. What about your "undeserving skanks in the Sahara
desert", that you didn't address and quickly erected some diversion.
Nice try again. Your insult about my intellect means nothing.
You should really investigate the backstory on Obama and see whence his
support comes. You think he is doing so well just because the sheeple
speak? You apparently watch too much TV.
Your willingness to participate in their election indicates your lack
of understanding of the true nature of the situation in the US, and
your backing of Obama, despite your rhetoric, is still voting for the
lesser of two evils. I do believe there will be others on the ballot
By the way, my wife and I manage and live in a group home and provide
support for four individuals with severe physical and mental
disabilities. I've noticed your use of retard in sevearl of your
posts. No, it doesn't offend me, it simply demonstrates your ignorance
It never ceases to amaze me.....
"The United States has only one party - the property party. It's the
party of big corporations, the party of money. It has two right wings;
one is Democrat and the other is Republican."
You noticed "regardo" in ONE post in five years, that where the meaning
was apropos. But hey, lie your ass off if you wanna, shows you're aware
you have no facts to rely on. Cuz that's just so gay!
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"I was forged!" is the one you pull out of your rear every now and then.
The headerws were checked the last couple times you pretended not to be
you. You were never forged. Take responsibility for your own behavior!
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:56:34 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org
The beautiful daughter of Demeter and Zeus, Persephone is the focus of
the story resulting in the division of the seasons, giving us the
sweetness of Spring and the bitterness of Winter. Hades did not woo
the beautiful Persephone, he abducted her and took her to his
underground kingdom. After much protest, Persephone came to love the
cold blooded king of the underworld but her mother, Demeter, was
consumed with rage and sorrow. She demonstrated her anger by punishing
the earth’s inhabitants with bitter cold and blustering winds. Unless
Persephone was returned to her mother’s side, the earth would perish.
Hermes was sent to the house of Hades by Zeus to reason with Hades. He
entered the kingdom of Hades and negotiated a compromise between the
(usually cold and selfish) Hades and the (usually loving and caring)
Demeter. Before Persephone could leave the underworld, Hades gave her
a pomegranate seed to eat. By doing this he bound her to himself and
his kingdom. When Demeter found out about the trickery she was angry
but she was also resigned that there was nothing she could do... her
loving daughter was bound to the Lord of the Dead. With no
alternative, it was agreed that Persephone would to spend part of the
year with her husband, Hades, and part of the year in the sunlight
with her mother, Demeter.
When Persephone is with Hades the earth is wracked by the sorrow of
her mother. But, when Persephone returns from the underworld to walk
the earth again, Demeter pours forth the blessings of Spring to
welcome her beloved daughter home.
The Ovidian myth is late-occurring and literary rather than religious.
It's nice but even though the "ravishing" kind reduces Persephone to a
victim of rape, which was not how she was viewed in active cults. Thus in
early Greek sources she is a Trickster who brings memories and illusions
of lost loved ones but never the loved ones themselves, grim-visaged &
called Maid to placate her and to avoid the forbidden use of her
In the Homeric hymn to Persephone, Hades does not ravish or kidnap her,
but places his value as a husband before her as he begs him to be his
mate. In the Homeric viersion, they come together in a meadow of black
poplars in abject darkness, and Persephone was comforted by Hades. As
Homer tells it she became Queen from this desirable marriage, but many are
pretty certain that in some earlier version she would've been Queen and he
obtained kingship through her, as in the Ereshkigal myth.
That's much cooler than Hades carried her off by force, but for modern
retellings it's more fun to remember the late-occurring versions that she
was an unwilling captive rather than an actual sovereign as Homer took for
granted. I think if you look more into it you'll be glad to have the name
of a Death-goddess rather than some wussy teenage patroness of rape
Persephone as a chief Death-goddesses was so wholeheartedly cthonic that
she had no place in heaven, being the "fair maid of the underworld," a
youthful reflex of Hecate (the one Olympian over whom Zeus had no
authority). Homer called her not beautiful but "the Grim Persephone"
which is cooler'n hell. If you prefer to see her as a Hallmark card or
Little Golden Books of Myths type goddess rather than the cthonic Great
Mother, that's fine, it's all just myth anyway.
Among her Greek worshippers her name was forbidden to be spoken because
she was so terrible, ferocious, a destroying Queen of Death, called "She
of the Two Names" only one of which permitted to be spoken. Thus she was
addressed as Maiden so as not to evoke the dreadfulness of the Queen.
All Great Mothers had rule of the cycle of life, death, and rebirth, she
no different than other earth goddesses, but with particular association
with rule of the dead. The popular rape-myth seems to have overlaid a
grain-god myth of seasonal slaying and rebirth in plantlife of a MALE
consort of the queen (no other goddess than Persephone was ever presumed
to be a sacrifice for the rebirth of spring, and there is no evidence of
that aspect of her story in the oldest references to her. In some lost
protohistorical version of her myth, she probably gave birth to plantlife
(as Inanna did after usurping that role of her dark twin in the
underworld) after teh resurrection of her slain consort. The evidence of
this earlier role is in her association with the crocus, the name of an
obscure fertilitly daemon. Krokus as dying & reborn grain-god shows the
blood-red evidence of his slaqughter in saffron stamens.
A bit on her association with the Crocus -- going away with the autumn
crocus and returning with the spring crocus -- can be found here:
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