As some of you had seen I'd been working on a 34x34' dog run off the
back of our house for our hounds.
I'm finished with the fence and am working on a deck section and 8 foot
ramp that will lead from the house to ground level for the dogs.
Anyway, the deck is built with a height of 3', and a final height of 5'
with the railing. The face side I'm going to use lattice which will go
the full 5 foot height.
I'm going to put a vine on it, but need advice on what would do best.
During summer it gets part sun from 11am till dusk. Fall it's mostly
shaded by the house.
I'd need something that is totally pet safe, just in case they decide to
munch on it. I'm not sure which ones are as none of the sites seem to
cover this info.
The more flowers, the better, but anything is good. I'm going to end up
training what ever grows there to grow along the balusters of the full
8' ramp as well as on the 5' deck section.
Thanks in advance! :)
As a general rule, any vine (or plant) that has berries on it is NOT
safe around pets. One safe vine that I would consider is Clematis.
There are lots of varieties that will give you a lot of color and some
nice foliage and there is almost no maintenance with them. It takes
them a few years to grow and you need to pick the ones that are right
for your area and situation.
Also, vines like morning glory (annuals) grow quickly and (usually)
reseed themselves every year and they come in lots of colors.
So Clematis is indeed pet safe then.. Good.. It's one of the ones I was
leaning towards using... Best thing about Clematis is you can easily
train the main branch and prune the crud out of it back to the main
without much problem.
Glad that you brought up Morning Glory, since I was hoping to grow some
on the fence itself as well as some Cypress Vine so those two are good
options for it then.
Thanks for the link, though it errored on load I did google for aspca
toxic plants and pulled it up.
I see cypress vine is not on the list so puts it on the possibles.
As for growing something I know is edible, good Q.. I really don't have
an answer for that one. Though I'm not sure I'd do grapes.. Will have to
look into berries, so long as the plant doesn't have thorns.
Something else that came up was a Chocolate Vine, which seems to be 100%
edible. Seems that it's considered a pest in KY however.
Purple passion flower seems to also be on the edible list, as well as
Scarlett runner beans.. Anyone have experience on those three?
i grow scarlet runner beans. they're just an heirloom runner
(vine), so nothing poisonous about them. the beans are good
very small *or* full grown. there's a not so tasty week or so
between the stages where thay're no good as shell beans & too
tough for using like snaps. they also make good dry beans...
however they *are* a very lurid pink & purple spotted combo.
they turn green when cooked fresh, but the dry beans stay
hummingbirds like the flowers. they need a fairly warm soil
to sprout, but they grow fairly quickly, not very
branchy/bushy, so plant fairly close if you want coverage of
purple podded string beans have similar growth habits & nice
purple flowers (scarlet runner flowers are red & white). make
sure you don't get the bush type on those.
either one if you keep the beans picked, they keep growing &
blooming until frost.
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
No grapes around dogs. There have been a number of reports of fatalities
in dogs with relatively small doses of either.
Which Passiflora species? At least some of them are toxic. (Sorry, I
don't do common names well.)
Hops might be another possibility, but check on that one with veterinary
toxicologists -- I'm unsure of that, but will throw it out as a potential.
And there are some ornamental hops vines that aren't too bad looking.
Another problem with unprotected grapes is that, when they start to get
ripe, they draw LOTS of birds. The bird eat and crap (a lot). The bird
do-do carries many diseases that dogs can pick up by just waking through it.
See Elwood and Whatling, 2006. Grape toxicity in dogs. Vet Rec.
April 8; 158(14):492
Campbell and Bates, 2003. Raisin poisoning in dogs. Vet Rec 2003;
Penny, Henderson & Brown. 2003. Raisin poisoning in a dog. Vet Rec 2003
Singleton. 2001. More information on grape or raisin toxicosis. J Am
Vet Med Assoc. 218(10):1555-6
wild grapes are excellent, as is Virginia creeper. altho the birds do eat the
fruit, they usually fly away to crap somewhere else. the only time we noticed
streaked poops was when we had a mountain ash and when it was ripe a flock of
(the ones with teh yellow stripe on the end of the tail feathers) would show up
eat all the fruit. Ingrid
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:24:20 -0600, Scott Hildenbrand
All of the reports are anecdotal. From the last article given below:
"The toxic mechanism remains to be elucidated, and the apparent lack of a
reproducible dose response relationship has led some authors to suggest
this may reflect either a component of the fruits that is present in varying
quantities,or the existence of an extrinsic compound that may not always be
Our dogs have always eaten grapes and even raisins and lived to well past their
"natural" life span. In the wild wolves eat grapes. They have not yet found any
toxin in grapes, that is no "mechanism" of toxicity.
I find it interesting that there were NO reports of grape toxicity in dogs until
recently. HOWEVER, we now know about all the toxins in the food on the shelves,
toxins that cause renal and liver failure.
"Could you please tell me what the signs and symptoms of the melamine poisoning
A: Signs to watch for with a suspected melamine poisoning includes vomiting,
inappetance, lethargy, urinating more frequently, and drinking more water.
The melamine is a renal toxin and can cause acute kidney failure. In dogs who
already have compromised kidneys, the symptoms are more severe. When the kidneys
fail, they are unable to clear the proteins from the blood, causing nausea. Some
dogs will vomit. Most will not be interested in their food. In attempt to
kidneys, the dogs will be more thirsty and urinate more frequently.
If your dog is showing any of these clinical signs, we recommend having your
veterinarian check a renal bloodwork panel and a urinalysis."
THE DIFFERENCE? my dogs eat a raw meaty bone diet bought from a local human food
store. No processed, commercial dog foods, no melamine contamination, no
no grains, carbs etc that compromise their health.
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