I'm in Southern NH, current temp about 65, cool, breezy and storm on it's
Today I found a wasp nest, with wasps, unlike anything I've ever seen.
First, I actual had pulled on the stem it was on and only found the wasps
when I grabbed to pull it off. There were at least 6-7 wasps seemingly
unconcerned by my presence. Didn't get buzzed, stung, what ever.
They were small - at most 3/4 of an inch and could be closer to a half inch.
The nest/comb was flat, at this point about 3.5 inches across and the cells
were definitely on the small side and the nest was about the silver brown
color of dried leaves (which is why I grabbed there in the first place). I
know yellow jacket nests well - this was not a yellow jack nest.
Standard black and yellow coloration - other than the size, nothing stood
out. Mind you, I wasn't going to stick around and take notes. Though I did
continue working right around the area.
Thoughts ? Please and thank you
Paper wasps build nests like that, and most of them are quite gentle. The
one in the above is an european paper wasp, and is about 3/4 inch in length.
The newly hatches ones are about 1/2 inch or so. When they fly, you can see
the legs hanging down. There are smaller varieties as well. They tend to be
quite gentle, but poke the nest enough and they might zap you a few times.
Can you get a picture of them?
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:33:17 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
Lots of wasps Cheryl... You can try poking around the What's
that Bug site and see if anything looks familiar:
Some cool images to browse if nothing else :)
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:00:22 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
FWIW one of the local extension services in my area use to
handle calls like this via Master Gardener volunteers. It
was one of the niftier things for them, per a Master
Gardener trainee I once knew. You wouldn't believe the stuff
people call in/ask questions about.
I've been reading your posts for years now and there is a
really good chance that you will know more about this than
the people you are planning to call ;-)
No harm in trying though...
Several pictures of the nest and in situ would be really
helpful. I couldn't fully grok what this thing looked like
from your description.
On 7/25/09 2:45 PM, in article firstname.lastname@example.org,
I realized, while out among the daylilies today, that I had the prefect
resource - a fellow daylily nut that has a Ph.D in bugs! I'm going to try
and take a few pictures in the AM and mail them off to him.
Actually, I might try after dinner. Warmer today here and still not
Talking about yourself in the plural, shelly? So does that prove that
you are schizo, or do you just need another suck on the bottle? You've
burned everybody out. You're the dirty bum on the corner that no one
wants to make eye contact with. You're a self made loner, congrats.
You are as popular as a flat tire. You will never see the day that you
are worth as much as chopped liver. Now, just go back to your fantasy
(psychotic or alcohol induced) and STFU.
Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:30:26 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
Here is another site that has pretty decent photos:
maybe this one in particular (Species Polistes fuscatus -
Northern Paper Wasp):
This website has a better description for same:
There are quite a few entries in the Genus Polistes. See:
Not all of the Paper Wasps are particularly aggressive.
The purported "yellow-jackets" are a numerous Genus too. See
some of the possibilities here:
Hopefully this will give you a better idea of why a picture
of the nest and detail of a specimen would be helpful :)
On 7/26/09 3:33 PM, in article email@example.com,
I fully realize a picture is worth a thousand words. I do wish that a
resident critter could have waited until tonight to eat the nest.
Talking with my daylily buddy - most likely a paper wasp, we just don't know
which one. The complete docility was what was so amazing to me; even with me
about to yank the nest, no stings, no buzzing - nothing! Even he was
surprised by that.
I also realize Sheldon is a wart on the backside of this group.
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:25:23 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
We have the "Polistes dominula - European Paper Wasp" here
now. Don't remember them being around when I was a kid. From
what I can tell/surmise they weren't. Introduced, started on
the east coast and have been moving inland. More rapidly the
past few years.
I rub these out pretty regular around the place, where they
could be troublesome that is. They haven't stung me yet,
I've given them good opportunities too. The ground nesting
Yellow-jackets that look very similar are another story.
They get pissed if you just stand by their nest a bit too
They're suppose to have kinda orange antenna, which is a
good ID from what I could figure out. Well, maybe next time
you will be able to take a few more notes before
high-tailing it away ;-)
At least I'm not a wart on your moot... the stench! LOL
You didn't see any nest, or knowing you were going to post for an ID you
would have taken a picture immediately. And when those nests are
constructed the insects secret a toxic substance that repels other critters,
so it was not eaten, it simply blew away with the wind.
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