I just purchased a home and have discovered that it has a major
groundhog problem. My backyard looks like swiss cheese! I am buying a
havahart trap and the groundhog deterent that they sell. My only issue
is what to do with the groundhog after I've trapped it. In NY one is
not allowed to transport an animal without a license, so relocation is
out. According to NY State, the suggested method is euthanization
(since these are vermin). In trying to think about ways to get this
done, I thought about the use of a BB Gun -- Has anyone had experience
at dispatching groundhogs (at close range) with an air pistol? Is it
Most folks I know shoot 'em with either rifles or shotgune and
they don't go down easy. Forget an air rifle or a BB gun as you'll
just have a pissed off groudnhog on your hands.
Call the local animal control folks and let them deal with it.
On 2006-04-29 23:35:06 -0400, email@example.com said:
Use the have a heart, trap them and take them a few miles away. I'm in
NY too and despite the law I'm not paying some load to catch and rid me
of these things. I got rid of 4 last year. Just drive somewhere wooded
away from houses, etc. and let them out. I put mine on the passenger
side seat with the head end facing the door. I pull over, open the
door, lift the gate on the door site and the little bastards fly out
and into the woods. Whole thing takes a few seconds. I cover the trap
to keep it calm and cover again when done and drive home.
I use Hav-a-hart and transport to park. Transporting in trunk of car,
you will probably not be caught, and I cannot imagine getting into
serious trouble if caught.
One of my neighbors traps them but puts trap in garbage can and drowns
them. Another neighbor shoots with his .22.
Sounds like trap and release is the suggested method.
.22 is out - not legal.
I had a friend that used the drowning method on rats that ended up in
his trap. They were a lot smaller than groundhogs.... The truth is
that drowning gives me the creeps more than a quick headshot....
I feel the same way. I like to hunt but don't kill non-game animals
and don't like to see them suffer. I have taken a couple of groundhogs
while bow hunting for deer. Ate a small one - tasted like chicken.
Larger one actually bit my foot as I was retrieving arrow. Fortunately
boot leather was not pierced. I mention this because trapped animals
can get very nasty. I've transported squirrels, groundhogs, possums
and raccoons to park. Some are docile but others are in a frenzy.
Keep them in trap in trunk - just imagine what would happen if they got
loose in the car ;)
NO!!!!! trap & release is not suggested (except by complete
idiots that know nothing about wildlife).
first, if you don't want it, then no one else wants the
second, trap & release is a slow death to the animal, who will
be in a strange location & need to dig a burrow/find a home,
won't know where food is & will likely have to fight a
resident animal for it anyway.
third, you don't know what diseases the animal may be a
carrier of & you will be transporting those diseases to a new
area, where the local population may not have immunity.
there are *reasons* trap & release elsewhere are illegal &
just shoot the trapped animal in the head, pointblank, with
an air rifle & long point.
fine, use an air rifle. i've used one on a fox. they aren't
tougher than groundhogs.
it's less humane than a headshot. besides, do you have a
bucket big enough to get the entire live trap submerged?
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the
You and I are on the same wavelength about trap/release - hence my
I think air rifle is the way to go.
RE: Drowning -- a garbage pail is what I had in mind, not a bucket.
oh, good. i know that trap & release *sounds* like it's
humane, but it's really not.
how big is your trap? my bigger Hav-a-Hart won't completely
fit in a normal size garbage pail. it'd fit a small coyote
though, so it's pretty big for groundhogs.
drowning is fairly quick, but i don't like doing it.
Drowning is NOT quick and it is certainly not humane. I don't care how
much the little bastard is inconveniencing you!
If you do choose to drown an animal, you are hereby cursed to be
rendered motionless at the animal's side with your eyes riveted on it
through the entire time, able to neither turn away nor avert your gaze.
And then, when it's all over, I curse you with the memory of an elephant.
What animal could possibly be bothering you THAT MUCH?
From a personal experience: I put a trap out in the morning and when I came
home after work; the captured groundhog was dead. The trap was in the sun
and the g'hog couldn't take the heat. Maybe, that's why they live in those
nice cool tunnels.... :-b
hefty fine. seriously, no one wants you freaking problem
foisted off on them. if you think they are a pest in your
yard, why do you want to move them to someone elses property?
just kill it & be done with it.
that's the sensible solution. even in a suburb i don't see
why a point blank shot to the head of a trapped groundhog
would be illegal. it's not like you're shooting into the air.
i know guns are illegal in NYC, and shooting within X yards of
a dwelling, but you would be shooting down towards the ground.
it's not like you could accidentally hit something besides the
trapped groundhog. i'd discuss that option with the local PD &
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the
On 29 Apr 2006 20:35:06 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
A spring piston air rifle is plenty strong enough to kill a groundhog,
particularly at close range in a trap. A .22 rifle or pistol may be as
cheap or cheaper and you can use the low power, low noise, CB long
cartridge to kill the groundhog. When you move the animal somewhere
else it will die over the winter anyway as the disruption of digging a
new burrow and finding food interupts the buildup of a winter fat
supply. If you are a gardener a good groundhog is a dead groundhog.
put into large garbage bag, put in chunks of dry ice, squeeze the air out and
will kill them. Ingrid
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Are you for real? How is one supposed to get the groundhog into a large
garbage bag? Trap and all? Those traps are too big and awkward to handle
that way. Without the trap? I hope the OP likes rabies shots, tetanus
shots, sundry other shots, wound debridement and suturing, medical bills
AND the fine for disposing of a wild animal illegally.
<let's not even start on the dry ice matter>
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