Mr. Yard Boy to you Don Staples, you know how we do things around here.
Remember, there is nothing a matter with being a yard boy especially when
you have a back ground in tree biology. Now claiming to be a consulting
forester and defining a forest as a single stand or group of trees under one
or more ownerships is silly to say the least. Not having a clue as to mulch
chemistry in a forest and claiming to be a consulting forester is fraud.
That means if I put two small trees in a trash can, I have created a forest.
That's your words and not mine.
We need pre-forester like pre-med with tree biology being a must! BTW my
definition of a forest is in my dictionary. You don't have to agree but you
will know what I mean.
I live in the US in Iowa.
Farmers here generally use pig manure which smells just god awful but
seems to always work efficiently for them... at my work we have cow
manure in bags which people find affective.
be given wrote in message>> Mine too. Bloody good stuff is horse poo, but the Brits have had
Why don't you try reading the thread for comprehension in addition to using
a newsreader that gives you decent attributions?
The problem with the herbicide infected British horse poop is that IF it's
piled, the problem doesn't go away. This herbicide is nasty and piliing it
is NOT the way to deal with the problem of contamination.
Mother Earth News has an article about this very subject in their
If in doubt, ask the farmer/rancher if any pesticides were used in
On our plots, Manchester UK, it was an herbicide call Aminopyralid
introduced by Dow Chemicals a few years ago to treat broad leaved
weeds in commercial crops. The herbicide binds strongly to plant
material which when grazed by or fed to cattle and horses in
feedstuffs such as silage or hay can pass through the animals without
breaking down. We've been advised to rotavate or dig over the soil
several times between summer and autumn when the soil is warm. The
contamination is widespread here - seen in Scotland, Wakefield and
Luckily I was on holidays when we got a load - I was upset I had
missed it. Not any more!! The RHS wrote to us advising us to 'scrape
off' any loose manure! What a shame ...
Why not ask them if any weedkiller has been used on the pasture land where
the horses are.
Generally speaking it is not horse manure that has been the problem, but cow
manure. It appears that horses are far less tolerant to weedkillers than
cows so weedkillers are not used. I understand (from a local stables) that
cows only eat grass and leave the other stuff but horses eat almost
Unfortunately I've got a couple or three tons of contaminated cow manure on
one of my plots. It has killed everything except couch grass. I'm suing the
farmer. I'm now using only horse manure which I know has not been
On 29/9/08 10:20, in article 48e09e59$1 firstname.lastname@example.org,
I don't know if suing the farmer will get you anywhere. The problem seems
to lie with pasture that has been sprayed with a permitted herbicide. If
'your' farmer didn't know this could cause a problem, he can hardly be at
fault. There was no deliberate intention to wreck your crops. BTW, because
the answer lies in the grass and possibly in wood shavings used for horse
bedding, horse manure is said to be affected, too so I hope it's not too
late to prevent you from using that on your crops. If you haven't seen it
already, this might interest you. There is some mention of compensation in
The weedkiller instructions for use make it clear that any manure should
only be used where non grass food crops, such as Rye, are grown and they
specifically state manure should not be used on any other crop. The farmer
knew this when he delivered the manure. He and every other farmer who did
this is liable. This means he is responsible for his negligence under
British law. Sale of Goods Act for starters. He has already in part admitted
responsibility. There are about 30 or more people suing him. This is
happening throughout the uk.
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