I'm starting trying start my first compost. I keep seeing a carbon to
nitrogen ratio of 30:1. Is that by weight or volume? Most kitchen
scrap is nitrogen so that's the one I have plenty of but that's the
low part of the 30:1 ratio. Winter just thawed out and I have bunch of
dried grass on my lawn. Grass clipping is considered green, but is
dried grass considered brown (besides the fact that it looks brown)?
Can I dry "green" things out and it turns to brown material? Seems
like brown is harder to generate in that quantity than green material
since lawn is mulched, but is needed in vastly greater quantities.
Even using newspaper, that's a lot of newspaper compared to how much
kitchen scrap is generated daily. There's no way I can compost all my
kitchen scrap. I know people talk about straw and hay, but those
things are bulky and I don't have room to store a bale of hay until
kitchen scrap catches up nor do I have a compost bin large enough for
that much hay. What are people using for brown material? Maybe I could
start spread chopped up kitchen scraps on my lawn and let it do its
thing. I kid.
I can't believe you said that!
I had a neighborhood cafe that saved their salad/veggie scraps for me, I
picked up one or two 5 gallon buckets every night on my way home from work.
I dumped this on my compost piles along with my kitchen scraps, it wasn't
"too much". I had 3 compost bins; one by the back kitchen door, one in the
veggie garden and one behind the garage. They got whatever was at hand in
the close proximity tossed on them while I worked in the garden. Just
depended on what time of the year it was as to what was tossed on. The only
thing I didn't use were lawn clippings. I had eliminated every blade of
grass on my property, I personally see no reason for 30 gazillion little
high maintenence plants that all look the same, I don't DO lawn. Kitchen
scraps, trimmings, prunings, the rubble from garden grooming, leaves,
fireplace ash, all tossed on in the random order of appearance, a son
occasionally "dampening the pile" (Don't you dare walk through the house
with those dirty shoes!) while out doing garden chores, it worked. No
recipes, no weights and measures, none of them stunk, they all produced fine
Find somebody with a good old compost pile and wheedle a shovelful from that
pile and toss it on yours, that will help start yours up. Toss on all those
scraps and once in a while sprinkle a shovelful of garden soil over yours if
you think it's getting mucky. When you are working in your garden walk over
with a pitchfork and give it a few jabs and twists to stir things up a bit
and give it a breath of air. Maybe shred up that precise recipe for compost
while you're at it and toss that into the pile as well. Loosen up your
anally engineered sphincter, man. You said it...this isn't really rocket
science. If you really want *immediate* compost go buy a bag and then use
what you're making when it's ready. Otherwise just kick back and let it rot,
have a beer, relax. A compost pile is never 'done', you just eventually
harvest what's ripe and it continues on doing what it's supposed to do. It's
alive, it rots, it's compost.
That was under the assumption that I needed 30 times the brown
material for my kitchen scrap. I have since learned that it is not
true. I'm just trying to learn. It might be easy for you because you
know how to do it. Last time I tried I thought I could just throw
kitchen scrap in a bin outsife. Well, it turned out to be a giant pile
of rotten garbage. I guess it was still technically a compost heap,
but it's not the way I (or my neighbors) preferred to do it.I didn't
know about brown and green or carbon and nitrogen. Even those the
composting process is very forgiving and no right or wrong way,
there's still good ways and bad ways of doing it.
Wouldn't have my sphincter engineered any other way. That part works
just fine, unlike my previous attempt at composting.
None of the web sites said anything about beer being part of
composting. I like your method much better!
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:20:00 -0500, Charlie wrote:
What about female urine, which can contain the chemicals -- hormones;
birth control pills; other "products" excreted by many females --
that are now said to be causing distorted development among
marine mammals and fish who live in waters that have
received these toilet flushings
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:46:06 -0700, Persephone wrote:
Good point. Dammit, I know about the situation with excreted drugs in
water supplies,, but didn't *even* extrapolate that to direct
application in the garden.
My only excuse was thinking of myself personally and knowing that my
urine doesn't contain any drugs, other than herbals. And I guess
whatever toxins I unknowingly or unavoidably ingest.
Thanks. Seriously. Your point is a damn good one.
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