I am having my basement converted into office space and am trying out ideas
for the concrete floor. It's a full basement, approx 1300sq. We do
construction work and the floor needs to be durable enough to handle
workboot traffic. I've pretty much ruled out pad and carpet, due to both
possible dampness problems and the heavy traffic.
I'm leaning toward the acid etched concrete but since my floor is 31 years
old, badly stained in spots and partially painted (for some reason) in
others, am trying to get some feedback on if this is the best idea. Would
it take more time and money to prepare this surface than it's worth?
Sounds like a looser to me. That much acid in a confined space
and every piece of iron or steel in the whole house is going to
start rusting tomorrow.
Hope you have a gas mask.
As discribed, I would go with nothing or non-slip paint.
Muriatic acid which is used for the etching isn't that much an issue--I
wouldn't worry about it from that standpoint.
Problem I see w/ a slab that old and in a basement is more than likely
there was no vapor barrier initially and if there were any it's
probably pretty ineffective by now. At least to the "plastic sheet"
test to see what happens. Any paint you use w/ the presence of
moisture really should be latex-based, otherwise you're likely to have
peeling issues. Same with epoxy or other resinous coatings. All of
these need an etching or chemical cleaning operation anyway before
applying or you won't get good adhesion, so I think I'd just opt for
the etching and be done. If you're doing a complete tearout and/or
starting w/ an empty basement, the easy way to start would be to simply
rent a floor sander and sand the whole thing back to a bare surface,
clean, and progress from there. Would be simpler/less mess to do the
whole process before erecting partitions and all, too, if haven't
already. (Friend w/ concrete contracting business doing a fair amount
of these now--for the life of me don't understand why they wait to call
for it until after all the interior partitions are in in almost every
case when they plan on it from the beginning. Could probably save
themselves nearly half on labor and rework of cleanup after the mess.
That sounds simple enough.
Any paint you use w/ the presence of
Thanks! Very helpful. We will be starting with a tearout of everything
currently down there. I'm making some sort of attempt of doing all this in
a logical manner and not having to come back in and do major work that
should have been done at the start. BTDT on other projects. Hopefully I've
learned my lesson!
One last thought...I'm certainly no expert on the etch/stain other than
watched it through the fella' mentioned before as to the basic process,
so I don't know what range of colorations one can get. The thought is
that one potential advantage w/ painting despite some disadvantages
would be that one could perhaps be a little lighter to make area
Of course, there are other flooring options, too, but if it really is
going to be heavily trafficked, maybe the bare concrete w/ a
strategically-placed runner or three solves the dirt problem w/ less
noise/slick issues. That's what we did in the Engineering Center
offices at the coal-fired plant after the initial carpet in the brand
new building was tracked up by the workforce using the conference room
for training (construction mud has nothing on pulverized coal dust for
making grime! :) ). You could possibly put some industrial carpet in
an office area off-limits to the mud-trackers for a little amenity if
I did think about just leaving it bare, but it looks SO bad right now.
Something would have to done regardless and might as well take the next step
as long as the company is footing the bill! And at some point when we stop
using it for an office, we'll make it a "college kid" apartment / in-law
suite. I think the browns and reds that I've seen in pictures would work.
We're in GA so red clay will blend in with that fine! :) And we do have a
bank of windows along one wall so it won't be quite so dark.
Thanks for your input!
Take a look...
I think there is a version out there that they use for roller hockey...
Thanks for the links! I can definitely see using this in the garage (to be
a storage/warehouse) area and down the high traffic hallway. I think I
would still finish the floor underneath in preparation for later living
space. But this would definitely save wear and tear until that time!
Here is a very little explanation of acid etched concrete. There
is a state by state listing of contractors on the same page:
You might also want to consider one of the epoxy/colored chip
floors. This stuff is fairly expensive, I priced it at one show
at over $3/SF. Here is an example:
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
Check out acidstainconcrete.com from Gaye Goodman out in New Mexico.
She has quite an operation and is a great source for what it really
takes to do this well. She really emphasizes surface prep - sounds
like you have a lot of that - but the results can be spectacular and
Sherwin Williams has a product, it's 2 part epoxy that I used in my
shop. I'll get the name. I went with saftey yellow so I could find
dropped parts. It is very durable and nothing so far has stained or
lifted it, including deisel, brake fluid hot tires etc.
I got pix but don't know how to upload them?
You can email me if you want. My email isn't munged. Would this be
something that could also be used a couple of years down the road when we
turn the space into an in-law suite? That was one reason I was leaning
toward the etched concrete. It looks good enough for a living space as well
as office space. (With a few strategic throw rugs of course.) I may do
something different in the "warehouse" section which is currently our
garage. Paint, or those rubber tiles would probably work well in that area.
Thanks for the idea!
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