You're paraphrasing me.
After I plonked him I realized that most of the group activity is Don
proffering some redneck opinion, and then the group responding to it. I
think Don's problem is that he's *not* on meds. He talks like a depressed
person. I'm not a collector, but I've met a few. He should heck out the
state of modern pharmaceuticals... with a doctor, of course.
Actually, once I see the "you're an idiot f*** you" sort fo thing, I just
mark the whole cascade as "read". I don't read all that fast, and I write
*really* slowly, so I have to filter so as to try to not waste *too* much
of my time <g!>
I don't care about the mini-biographies unless someone has an interesting
life-story. I try to cram waaay too much into my brain as it is, so Ihave
no room for "so-and-so used to post in alt.smorgasbord under the name
hamncheese, and would whine about field mice", or whatever the hell...
If MikeB write something that I find interesting, amusing, clever, or
worthy of comment, I'll read and write a reply if I want to, regardless of
whether he used to be hamncheese at alt.smorgasbord...OTOH, if he, ro
anyone, writes stuff that I find to be childish, nasty, irrelevant, nasty,
or stupid, I'll ignore it.
<shrug...> No biggie, I just have no interest in wasting my time on trash-
talk and other garbage...there are too many *interesting* things in the
world ;) !
About as long as it took you to form a thought, which means I was trying all
day to get google groups to work.
You know I really don't want ot bring up the whole VA shooting thread all
over again, so think whatever you want to think, I don't give a shit.
I don't have to listen to someone blithering uselessly about "gutr
feelings" (or any other form of general, unfounded, and/or poorly-defined
"belief") to know that there exist important *facts* about terrorism and
terrorists. There is a lot I can't go into, even after this much time, but
suffice it to say that there are a great many serious *possibilities*.
It's one thing, however, to say that a given scenario or set of scenarios
is *possible* or, for than matter, *likely*, and it is an entirely
different matter to collect and _most importantly_ recognize evidence
indicating that this or that scenario is *imminent*.
Chertoff's blither was entirely useless, because there is no sort of
contingency plaaning that is possible based upon someone's ramblings that
"the continent migh be attacked in late Summer or early Fall".
Having a fear, or more perhaps accurately, a concern about the possibility
of terrorist attack is not a "phantom fear", unless one is living with
one's head stuck in a hole somewhere. THe difference between fear and
concern is that concern is a basis for intelligent analysis and planning,
whereas fear, especially non-specific fear, leads only to knee-jerk
reactions that *at best* are about as useful as a landed fish's flopping
around in the boat, and at worst, very easily lead a people to degenerate
into a police state. ((Consider, after all, the free-floating anxiety in
early 20th-century Germany regarding unionization and Communism and
consider the part it played in the rise of the Nazis - and never forget
that Hitler was *voted* into power.)) OTOH, if there is good information
that a specific event is highly likely to occur within a definable
timeframe, and in a definable place or set of places, then it is possible
(if currently unlikely) that intelligent planning can take place.
Do not ever forget that the 2nd Amendment is about our ability to defend
ourselves from the GOVERNMENT itself. This is the primary reason for
this amendment. In fact, the rest of the arguments about the 2nd
Amendment are plain stupid because they avoid the real point altogether.
How we've where we are:
When one has grown up with violence, and has been a victim of violence,
nobody else has any right *at all* to blither on as to how one's fears are
"nothing more than phantoms".
I've heard all sorts of blither on as to how this one or that one would
"never even touch a gun even if their life were threatened".
Well, all I can say is, all the people I knew who said that NEVER HAD their
lives, or their loved ones' lives, threatened.
Climate change is happening... it has always happened. It will always
happen. But, every day, I see more actual evidence that the whole
"global warming" thing is not real...not at least from humans must do
something quick to avert certain disaster. (The latest is that the 20th
century weather station network has so many problems that it's really
impossible to know if we've 'warmed' at
all...http://www.surfacestations.org/about.htm , and
Somebody once figured that the "ideal" town size was about 30,000
residents with farms between them, located about 10 miles apart. But,
they lived in an agrarian 19th century, so what did they know about cars
and Internet and all that stuff. I put the same faith in that idea as I
do in the developers of Sim City.
I'm telling you that 1) climate is a terrible reason to change anything
because we can't do anything about climate, except adapt; 2) Topsoil
depletion can be dealt with--good farming techniques solve this problem.
But it does mean that 3) we stop thinking corn and soybeans are our
savior from oil; 4) You missed the point of my post. Provide vast
prosperity to the world and the world will stop having children. And
"vast prosperity" doesn't mean everyone lives a north American
lifestyle. It simply means they have the opportunity to feed
themselves, house themselves, educate themselves and create jobs for
themselves. If they cannot do it on their own, then it won't happen. I
just read this:
Something to consider.
(for the record, my undergrad school does a lot of work in Africa
teaching the locals how to obtain microcredit, clean water, grow crops,
and feed the malnourished--due to political upheaveals and droughts. I
support these efforts because the are very targeted and local, leaving
the governments. for the most part, out of the picture).
The peoples of the world have, for the most part, forgotten the purposes
of government. Government is not there to provide anything to anyone.
Go read the Federalist Papers
(http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa00.htm ) and the US Constitution
(http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html ) to get an understanding of
what governments are for.
Interesting. I think I like it. Archie school is usually intense and
big group enough that you may well have fine fond friends of frosh
failure. Computer geeks or history wonks won't have had quite the same
experience and ultimately probably don't care as much about those
people gone by the wayside. Even more so with the ones that took a
couplefew years to ... eject.
This supports the argument that it is not actual concern for planet/
environment/whatever that is driving the "issue". That is, they aren't
serious about it.
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