I have a two story colonial house in upstate NY. Something is running
around the first floor ceiling, occaisionally scratching. I have mouse
traps and poison all over the cellar. I had a pest control guy in 2
weeks ago. He put some poison in the attic. He told me, which I did,
to cut the outside bushes back from the house. He said if that didn't
do it, he wanted to cut a hole in the living room wall and put a trap
I have looked around the base of the house and tried to plug any holes.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want holes in my living
<<I have looked around the base of the house and tried to plug any
If they are Norway rats, they will probably get in someway through the
roof. I diligently cleared away all debris, dirt, and "stuff" from
around my house when a couple of rats decided to move into my 50 year
The exterminator found small holes in my gable vents and even smaller
ones in the roof details that those buggers were using. Set up some
snappers with peanut butter after putting sheetmetal over the holes and
now no critters.
You need a product called MouseEx - or WifEx
It works on an "interuptance principal" by which the cycle of the mouses
nurological and biological systems are totally dis-orientated.
Give as a food - or avilable as a spray - this substance will cause your
unwanted invaders to forget who they are -or where they are - or where thay
live - they will not remember when they last had a meal - and will be so
confused that they will eventually leave your house in search of whatever
they can remember- which is not very much.
This substance also works on nagging Wives - and since giving a double dose
to my Wife - she has not been seen since 1943.
George Max (in email@example.com) said:
| Where can I get the WifEx product? ;)
*Warning* - the WifEx product generally costs 10% more than you have.
[ DAMHIKT ]
DeSoto, Iowa USA
<<Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want holes in my living
room walls. >>
If you don't let the exterminator cut a hole in the wall from the outside
in, there's a good chance the critter will make one from the inside out.
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
Holes can be patched Bob. It's usually better to take the advice of the
professionals than it is to try to circumvent them by getting free advice
from a newsgroup. Advice as they say, is worth what you pay for it. Sure -
any number of ideas can be thrown on the table, and maybe even some of them
might work, but in general the more "brain power" that goes into this type
of question, the more bizarre the suggestions, and the more of a waste of
ether they become. I only say this because you've already gotten the advice
from the pest control guy, it's not like you're completely unaware and
looking for help.
Having said that, I guess the only question I might ask (and I'm guessing
the pest control guy already asked this...), is do you have any way to gain
access to the second floor joists? Maybe by pulling up floor boards
upstairs, or even by cutting a section of floor out?
OK - another question - How old is the house? Older homes often have
balloon partitions and critters can freely roam within the walls. Squirrels
can come in through the sofitts and once inside, they can travel to their
heart's content. Is there an attic? Have you put poison up there?
The net of it is that you have to get the poison where the critters travel.
If you can identify areas besides inside your ceiling, then maybe you can
get them there. If not, then you're back to square one.
You know, I take issue with your broad slam against advice found in
usenet. An awful lot of professionals and very knowledgable people
have participated in the various newsgroups over the years. By far,
some of the best advice you can get on ANY topic can be had with a
little usenet searching via Google Groups. That's not to say you won't
get bogus advice from someone who doesn't know what they're talking
about... but hell, you get that in the real world too ;-)
OK Joe, I'm sorry then. It was not a slam. Read what I wrote. I
specifically said "it's usually better to take the advice of the
professional than it is to try to circumvent them by getting free advice
from a newsgroup". The OP had the advice from a pro. He stated that his
objection to it was that he didn't want to cut a hole in the wall. So - he
came to a newsgroup - a woodworking newsgroup, to inquire about pest
control. Granted, and I agree that there is a lot of OT advice to be had
here that can be quite good, given the backgrounds of folks here, who are
generally here because of a common interest in woodworking. That said, I
stand by my statement that in the face of professional advice (which I think
is pretty reasonable advice based on the info provided), to come to an
unrelated newsgroup looking for better ideas.
So far, I have had 2 pest control guys over. One wanted to put traps
around the outside of the house. The other wants to cut a hole in my
living room wall. If I get a third guy over, he will probably want to
do something else.
Now that is a great idea!! I have been using an electronic pest repealer
for some time now. Gets rid of Humming birds, mice, rats, snakes and other
small pests, does not bother shop cat who is too lazy to chase small pests.
Any one know of a way to get rid of human pests especially those who want
work done for free?
Same solution I recommended for rodents. :-)
BTW, I don't think that electronic pest repeller works on snakes.
Ultrasound is the main repellant, and snakes don't have ears.
Your cat may be deaf, too.
Had the same problem and was given the same advice. However, I was lucky -
was sitting in the patio one night and saw some movement - was able to see a
rat squeezing in thru a hole in the wire mesh over a small vent. Put some
rat poison right outside the vent the next AM and closed the vent. I guess
when they came back the next night, they ate the rat poison because I was
finding dead rats for a week. Fortunately, none died IN the house - that
would have been quite a smell. DAMHIKT.
If you don't want to take his advice, you have to look over every inch of
your house from top(roof) to bottom ( basement) for any hole small enough
for a rat to get through.
Well hell die in the attic or the wall and your house will
stink...Sounds like a poor and expensive strategy.
My mother had a dead one fall through her ceiling into her bed while she
slept. The dog ran, ROFL. I think she still has flashbacks.
They can get in through foundation sometimes too if a wall has shifted.
If its making all that noise then its likely not a mouse but either a
big rat or a possum, a coon, or squirrel.
I wouldnt take it if I were you. I'd don a bat, and a helmet and crawl
up there and reclaim my house!
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
Might be squirrels or racoons. Look for a hole in the soffit. If you find
one, a baited trap nailed on the roof near the hole works. Cheapest
canned cat food you can find works for racoon. Sometimes though, you
catch a neighborhood cat first. If you have a basement, check there for
tracks. We had a racoon set up house in the attic, but he made trips to
the basement alongside the vent for the furnace. Found the tracks on a
dusty tool box.
If it's been scratching, you already have most of a hole in the
ceiling. Probe around the area where the scratching occured and
you might poke right through.
So complete the job, get the mouse out of there, figure out where
he got in, and patch.
I had the same problem. I was surprised just how large an area the
mouse had scratched out without actually breaking through.
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