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On 6/29/2012 2:43 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:

I think that will be enough, maybe. I try to build for the person that might inherit the furniture and use it to maybe store their gold bars or lead fishing weights. LOL

Single thickness, 3/4" red oak veneer plywood with a 3/4" x 3/4" piece of solid red oak on the front edges. That piece is attached to the plywood shelves with a spline joint.

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The center hanging section is done that way too. It is little more effort to put the supports in the front center stile also. Kind of a no brainer. This really reduces the need to add extra support to the shelves them selves to prevent sag. I did this on my previous 3 book cases and the pantry that I built for our new home.
That will definitely increase the working load on

Exactly!
Good idea, good design, good execution..
Thank you! Thank you Sketchup! That program has really helped me design better furniture.

I try to overbuild, I don't want a problem at a later date. I am sure the center stiles add something but the front and back face frames that have dados to accept the bottom, top, and sides of the cases really adds rigidity. FWIW I moved the cases with out the shelves and backs by picking them up by the center front stile.
During the dry fits of the prior 10 cases that I built this way I had the unit laying on its back glued up face frame and the top, bottom, and sides fitted into the back face frame dados and the top glued up face frame fitted on top of all of that. I could lift one corner and the case would pivot from the opposite back corner. No sag any where.

I often say that quality built furniture always looks good and never goes out of style. I am sure you and your sister would agree about the piece you built for her. Basically well built continues to look well built. Cheaply built looks less than desirable after a few years.

It is hard keeping the dust out. ;~) My grand mother painted thos, and about 10 others that I have had, in the mid 60's. I finally inherited the rest that you saw. I have reframed all of her paintings with like frames and they all hang in our den.
Thanks again for the kind comments!
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:43:37 -0400, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:

Those are oddly shaped, very colorful pushsticks, huh?
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Gorgeous, Leon!
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On 6/29/2012 2:44 PM, Han wrote:

Thank you Han!
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Beautiful grain on the back of those cases. Since most books are shorter than the shelf distance, you'll still be able to see some of it after the case is loaded up.
The center shelf pins make perfect sense. Good idea. I'll probably copy it if I do adjustable shelves.
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Thank you!
I have seven adjustable shelves plus the bottom shelf on each outer cabinet and the customers current saggy book cases are pretty much adjusted so that there are no gaps. ;~( Either way show or no show it looks goo now. LOL
Yeah the center supports work very well although they totally totally eleminat the need to go to the "sagulator site" to determine how much your shelves are going to sag. ;~)
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_Nice_ amount of book shelving, dude.

Yeah, I prefer the wider shelving (with pretty good access behind the center post) over dual narrow shelves. I think I'll use the L shaped, pinned shelf supports next time, too. They're much easier to work with than the flatted pins.
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On 6/29/2012 8:58 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

And the L shaped pins can not come out unless you remove the shelf first.
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I like the way you trapped the middle case in on top. Nice.
What is going in the middle of the the cases below that middle case?
On 6/29/2012 2:33 PM, Leon wrote:

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On 6/29/2012 4:02 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Thank you , I used a similar method on our pantry with the center stack of 22 drawers.

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On 6/29/2012 1:33 PM, Leon wrote:

Gorgeous as usual, Bubba! And time to celebrate with an:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff#5685385450154360146
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On 6/29/2012 4:12 PM, Swingman wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff#5685385450154360146
Thank you! and I agree with the celebration. Ummmmmmmm.
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Looks yummy, Swingy!
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wrote:

Beautiful bookcase. Too bad those backpanels aren't door panels. A shame to hide them behind books.
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On 6/29/2012 4:22 PM, Mike M wrote:

Thank you!
Too bad those backpanels aren't door panels. A

That was what I was thinking. LOL

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Beautiful! You even make red oak look great!
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Leon, a couple more questions.
When you do your double face frame construction, are all the face frames held together with just glue? And when you attach the face frames to the body, do you just glue them as well? Are there any mechanical fasteners involved? Dominos?
How did you drill the holes for the shelf hangers? A commercial jig, or?
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On 6/29/2012 4:43 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:

The front face frames are held together with floating tenon Dominos and glue, all butt in appearance joints so to speak.
The back face frames use lap joints 1/3 x 2/3 to form a 1/4" deep rabbet all the way around the opening to receive the back panels. and then all of those joints are reinforced with floating Domino tenons. This provides a very clean looking back side and allows me to screw in the back panels. 3 pictures are worth a thousand words.
The back face frame joint,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/7088837069/in/photostream
That joint separated
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/7088836699/in/photostream /
The detail of that joint with the Domino showing.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/7088836297/in/photostream /

For 15+ years I have been using the Rockler shelf pin jig and it has seen tens of thousands of holes. But it is getting long in the tooth and showing signs that it could fail, the plastic is cracking around the guide holes. So I replaced it with this one, smaller than the Rockler but it gets into tighter spots. I have had this jig about 4 months and have drilled about 1,300 holes with it so far.
http://www.kregtool.com/Shelf-Pin-Jig-Prodview.html
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On 6/29/2012 4:24 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:

Thank you Dave!
Funny you should mention the red oak looking good. I built with that stuff for 30 years and only recently started using white oak because of IMHO nicer color and what seems to me a bit sturdier wood/less splintery. It has been 18 months since I have really built anything with red oak and looking at theses book cases I have to agree that this red oak seems to have a very nice color. Maybe it is the Old Masters gel varnish. ;~)
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On 6/29/2012 1:33 PM, Leon wrote:

Looks very nice Leon!
It seems like a lot of the work you do is in Oak; is that a personal choice or is that reflective of what your customers ask for?
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