OT - putting information into the public domain

Just a passing note that I am pretty sure that a lot of people don't realise (or appreciate the breadth of access) when they are putting information into the public domain.

From naive teenagers who post drunken videos on Facebook then wonder why five years later they have a problem getting jobs, to people who post on Internet fora or Usenet Newsgroups, to people who submit objections to planning permission which are then (as it says on the notice) made available for the public to view. Or in this electronic age, made available to anyone anywhere in the world with a computer and search engine.

For instance, a response to a planning application for a balcony (not ours, which was rejected).

"As a disabled person my Mum spends her afternoons taking bed rest, her room is to the rear of the property, due to her mobility problems there is a commode in the room next to the window the best place for it as recommended by ss. Her curtains are always open and my Mother is very worried the neighbours will see her sitting on the commode".

Well, at least they (and anyone else who might be passing) will now know what she is doing when sitting at the window.

Cheers

Dave R

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David WE Roberts
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In the final example I think it perfectly acceptable that personal info like this should be with held from a public database if asked for. Certainly commercially sensitive information submitted as part of a planning apllication or objection is regularly left out and some suitable phrase about having to see a planning officer or something to get the information is inserted. I see these on lists I get from the local authority, so assume this will be also left out on an online service. Filure to do this could be a breach of the data protection ac. I do agree about the rest of course, if someone is actually in control of what they publish and where, then the buck stops with that person. One cannot whinge after the fact as the whole point of these social networks is to make thins public with the least fuss. Newsgroups have always been public. One issue that has caused me problems in the past occurs for two main reasons. People thinking Google is in any way a complete archive of news, get onto me for a comment someone has quoted out of context while google did not have the original start of a thread for some reason. No matter how much to try to explain the vagaries of usenet and google to some people its always your fault they are upset. I say, its only words and really one should grow up. Thus to me, those employers who constantly set store by what someone did years before or whatever are also being very short sighted and should not really be in the job if they assume a few minutes of foolishness constitutes the whole character of a person. Lets hope some common sense on both sides prevail, as it should be OK to be a prat sometimes, but someone who is a prat all the time deserves all they get. Brian

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Brian Gaff

On 19.05.2012 09:36, Brian Gaff wrote: ...

If that employer do not like what I am saying here, I may not like to be employed by that employer. Thus no harm is done.

Today I have another problem that I cannot understand. Why are there so few prats? How many people in England? How many in the world understand english? How come that news is not crowded with prats? I am not quite sure of the meaning of prats, but will find out.

My best explanation is that there is some self-regulation. If it becomes too crowded, people stops posting until the crowd has the right size? Any better explanation?

Reply to
Jo Stein

That possibly because you are one, so fail to recognise their ubiquity.

Well about 70m in the whole UK.

An awful lot,. most not in England.

It is.

Possibly people just like you.

Not sure what you were on last night, but let it wear off and try again.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Ah well maybe there is a critical mass for a group of prats. Pratish behaviour can afflict many people and often it happens when far too much alcohol has been consumed in too short a time.

Brian

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Brian Gaff

I ask for help to solve a problem here, and I get no help at all. If 10% of the inhabitants of UK started to use uk.d-i-y it would be crowded by 7 000 000 posts each day. It isn't crowded at all. The number of messages is exactly right. Why?

Reply to
Jo Stein

I haven't seen you asking for help. Well, not about d-i-y.

Do you actually know what the newsgroup is for?

Reply to
Bob Eager

I dont recall your question. Usually when that happens, the asker hasnt provided necessary info.

Reply to
NT

In a free market there is a "right" price for grain but I don't see any mechanism for defining the "right number of messages". Some NGs are crowded, some are sparse. All contain some strange posts, some a higher proportion than others. You get to recognise the posters to follow, and which to ignore.

IME it is very rare for someone with a well framed and reasonably on topic query not to receive some helpful responses from this group. And unless it is obvious spam or trolling there will usually be some serious responses whatever the query.

And if you would care to share your definition of "prat", this would help us decide whether or not to add you to our killfiles.

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newshound

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Today we solve most problems by using Google, however I cannot find a good way to solve this problem by using Google. Most often I solve problems by running for some hours.

I never quarrel with my wife. If I did that, I would run away on a 20 km circle. When returning to my home I would have solved the problem and my wife is always there.

Reply to
Jo Stein

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Thanks a lot for your answer. I have been using news since 1995 and always had this question but never before tried to find the answer. Of course I should have posted to another group, but most groups are dead today. Many dead groups now, but no group is too crowded.

Reply to
Jo Stein

No, The number of messages is exactly wrong.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I think his(/her?) criterion for newsgroup selection, when posting, is not the relevance of the newsgroup, but how busy it is...

Reply to
Bob Eager

That last bit about people who post to Usenet Newsgroups made me smile.

Anyone can work out who I am, I don't care. Actually they can email me.

But you are correct and I'll put money on it that sometimes clueless duffers who try to hide their identity could really f*ck things up by just giving away a little too much info on a newsgroup.

Reply to
ARWadsworth

You had the right idea back up the thread.

I read a farming forum. There are currently 10,036 members!

Usually I check the posts once per day. Almost invariably there will be

20 or more messages to each fresh thread. Somebody will have covered what I might have posted so I rarely bother.

regards

Reply to
Tim Lamb

Having spent the best part of the last month first fixing the electrics on a new build farm house I cannot see how farmers have the time to post to any newsgroup.

Reply to
ARWadsworth

In message , ARWadsworth writes

Beats me as well. Ireland, Wales and Scotland are well represented so maybe it is the livestock dept. in for their tea.

Now it has stopped raining, my day started around 10am with some replacement post and rail fencing and finished around 6.30pm ambushing Queen wasps on the Cotoneaster:-)

Now you mention it, this keyboard smells of creosote!

regards

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Reply to
Tim Lamb

That's a bonus.

Reply to
ARWadsworth

Honestly speaking, do you think I am guilty of this?

Reply to
gremlin_95

Are you a clueless duffer?

Reply to
ARWadsworth

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