Thanks for all the help chaps, I purchased a scart cable from Wilkinsons for the princely sum of 99p and the DVD player now works a treat.
SWMBO is happy, I am once again her hero (haven't told her about you lot) peace and harmony reign at Handyman Towers.
Thanks again!
Don't worry, Dave. You are not alone.
The problem with modern manuals is that they are written by someone that knows the product inside out. They tell you what a button or socket does, but not how to use it.
I remember about 20 to 25 years ago, we bought a video recorder and it took me 2 weeks of going through various sections of the manual to extract all the information to set it to record a prog.
Dave
You appeared to be afraid that you might have to have plugged the DVD player into those, thus losing your surround sound. All I was saying was that that wouldn't have worked, anyway!
You've just said that you have more sockets at the front of the set. What sort are these? You might have been able to use these to connect the DVD player direct to the set, rather than going via the Telewest box.
If you remember those old Mel Smith ads, people want 'functions'. They probably will never use most of them - but by being there need a handbook as confusing as The Bible. If only they also gave you an idiot's guide written by someone in their native language who wasn't technical.
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:00 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote this:-
The better method(s) of sending video I typed of.
I didn't claim otherwise.
Too damn right..
I was in currys and they want £97 for a 5m hdmi lead. You can get one that produces the same quality for £7 at ebuyer.
Very well put Dave :-)
Dave
In which case these will be composite video and stereo audio probable. The three phono lead you pictured would do the trick here. You would need to select a different external input on the TV remote (the phono leads won't support auto switching like the scart does), You may also need to enter the setup menu on the DVD player and tell it that you want composite out. (you will get a picture - but it may be black and white until you do that)
Ferzacerly. The book had sections for 'Connecting to a audio system & TV equipped with YUV video input'.
Then it mentions Y,CB/PB, CR/PR outputs. WTF is that all about? I want a book that says 'put lead A into socket B'.
YUV is known as components. I dunno why it appeared on domestic equipment as it was originally a way of recording high quality pictures to professional videotape. And really offers no advantage in theory over RGB via a SCART.
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:46:42 GMT someone who may be "The Medway Handyman" wrote this:-
While I agree with the criticism of most instruction booklets these days there is a minimum level of knowledge needed to undertake any task.
The precise details don't matter. I have only a very hazy idea of what signals each cable transfers in such a setup, I got bored reading what they do in a manual. However, I do know that a cable with three connectors connects those sort of connectors together and this is one way of transmitting a video signal.
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:32:01 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote this:-
Partly globalisation. SCART isn't seen much outside Europe. If making a box for worldwide use it makes sense to have as many connectors as possible, otherwise it will not sell in some markets.
It is also a recognised method of transmitting High Definition video, the first method ISTR. Then the big companies stepped in and wanted DRM crap put on equipment which helped the development of other connectors. As a result of this crap Freesat boxes with component outputs suppress these when a HD programme is transmitted, the BBC gave in to the demands of big business and ignored their funders (the public). Not fun for early adopters of High Definition television with sets.
IIRC the scart on the Vbox supports RGB pass-through so just connecting a second fully connected RGB scart cable between the Vbox and the DVD should work (its the same as for sky boxes). No fiddling with the Vbox remote should be required as turning the DVD on will automatically route it through the Vbox to the TV (unless someone has been fiddling with the remote).
But that doesn't explain it. The three phonos could equally be RGB.
Not in the pro field. The original reason to use it was you could have reduced bandwidth colour difference signals for recording to tape where bandwidth is a problem. The theory being the eye only needs high resolution mono with a wash of lower definition colour.
My HD satellite receiver does output HD on the component output as well as HDMI - but not on the RGB SCART.
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:40:46 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote this:-
RGB can be got from a SCART connector if someone wants to use it and doesn't have a television with SCART.
So does mine. However, it is not a Freesat branded one.
I don't think I have ever checked this.
Probably written first for an American audience.
It's probably the same lead ...
=A3581 for a Kimber HMDM lead from Russ Andrews though. "Please note For technical reasons we are unable to Burn-In or DCT any of the HD-29 cables."
The price they charge for those things, I'm surprised they don't offer datatagging for an extra =A3250. Protect your valuable interconnects from theft with this acoustically-transparent identification system.
Owain
Front of our panny CRT has L, R, composite and S-VHS sockets. Designed for camera use.
Andy
I note some of the more recent D-SLRs now have HDMI out as well for previewing on HDTVs. I wonder how many of those have a easy to get at front HDMI?
Most if not all equipment will not attempt to deliver content above the normal PAL refresh/scan rates to a SCART - it could physically damage a TV not designed to expect it.
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