Which will you choose

[buckwheat]

Trump or Cruz

[philo]

Neither Trump nor Cruz would make a decent president.

Trump has been caught countless times on either side of the fence, depending on the audience.

Though Cruz is not guilty of that sin, his inability to get along with his peers would make him an ineffective president. Ironically, since his agenda is a bad one, I'd be fine without him not having the ability to promote it...but the consequence would be deadlock. Important issues would go unresolved.

I use Google 50 times a day and don't think I've ever gotten more hits than "most hated man in Washington"

Here is the first one:

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per buckwheat:

The pundits I have heard say that, if one were a Dem, Cruz would be the preferred candidate - less likely to win than Trump.

Based on that, I guess a Dem would choose Cruz and a Repub would choose Trump.

As an Independent, I'm just grateful for the massive spike in entertainment value.

[trader_4]

That would seem to be a relatively minor problem compared to the long list of Trump defects. Trumps defects include not being able to get along with anyone, whether they are in Congress or not. And clearly a lot of voters in both parties want someone who won't just go along to get along. An example of that kind of skunk is Mitch McConnell. Look at what he just did. The GOP had a bill, Kate's Law, that would provide for a mandatory 5 year prison sentence for any illegal aliens who have violent felony convictions and have been deported at least once before. That is a very reasonable bill, one that it's hard to imagine any rational American, looking out for the American people, would oppose. Instead of bringing it up for a straight vote, McConnell tacked it on to a bill that would have defunded sanctuary cities. He knew the latter would not pass. Why did he tack it on? He won't say, he won't even show up on Fox News to answer questions. But the logical reason is that he wanted to protect his Democrat buddies, by giving them cover so they could vote both down together, instead of having to go on record against Kate's Law by itself. THAT is the "get along" crowd that so many Americans are fed up with. And it also shows you how despicable the modern Democratic Party has become. They are actually on the side of violent illegal alien felons, instead of the American people.

Ironically, since his

Cruz's overall agenda is perfectly reasonable.

And you say that like it's a bad thing? Who are the most admired and by who exactly? All of Congress has an approval rating of what? 15%? So, who's admiring who? Career politicians who protect each other, like Bitch McConnell, instead of protecting the American people with Kate's Law. The Republicans and Cruz would quickly learn how to get along with each other.

[Paintedcow]

NEITHER, Because neither of them have anything to do with HOME REPAIR!

Post this same question on alt.politics and you might get a better answer.

[philo]

. And it also shows

I agree with you except for one little point, that should read:

. And it also shows > you how despicable the modern Democratic and Republican Parties have become.

The other day I mentioned that because Kurt V. Ullman , from his comments demonstrated that he knows more about the Constitution than everyone else here combined, I decided to shut up.

That was a few days ago, then I realized that a discussion of the Constitution on a Home Repair group is not so far off topic because lets face it, "something is broken in our country (the US)"

Since most here are the "fixit" types most should be familiar with the (engineering) modular or "black box" approach.

For a large project, teams of engineers are given specific problems and the solution must fit within a "black box" of given proportions.

They are given the input, they are told specifically what the output must be.

No one cares what goes on inside the box.

Now, look at the Constitution as that black box.

The framework is a given and the "engineers" do not have the ability to change it. In this country we know what is being fed into the "black box" and I'll tell you one thing: something good is supposed to come out. If shit comes out (which seems to be happening a lot) the "engineers" have f***ed up.

If the best minds cannot ascertain how to get the desired output within the parameters of the unalterable "black box" then the project manager must be consulted to see how the box could be modified to allow the engineers to "fit in" the solution.

[Don Y]

That;s like getting enjoyment out of watching the doctors argue about their respective ideas on how to save YOUR life! :<

Sad that in a country of some 300 millions -- probably at least a third of them "legally qualified" to hold the office -- this clown circus is the BEST we can come up with!

[Stormin Mormon]

I'm open to running on the Republican ticket. My slogan will be a baby seal under every club. Never mind the chicken in every pot. Muggles can be my social director, and Uncle Monster my secretary of defense. My first act will be to nominate Ed Pawlowski as supreme court justice. Robert Bowman as secretary of transportation.

[Malcom Mal Reynolds]

what good is a dead baby seal under a club, it will just make the dancing smell