My new cherry tree NW of Baltimore didn't seem to have many bugs
fertilizing it. Just 4 when I looked, two honey bees and two other
things about half as big and all black.
Is this because of the deaths of so many honey bees?
What were these other things?
I'm not sure they were even big enough to do the accidental fertilizing
that honey bees do.
Do you think this will cause a shortage of fruit on the tree? It had
loads of flowers,
If there isn't much fruit, how do I fertilize the flowers myself next
year? A brush? A toothbrush?
On Sun, 04 May 2014 20:04:45 -0500, The Daring Dufas
There aren't any more stink bugs, afaict, and two bushes in front of my
house which have been dying slowly, finally died completely, and the ivy
that was all around the bed all seemed to die, the first time that any
For next year, if necessary, I know you can buy lady bugs, but I've
never heard of buying honey bees, unless it's a whole hive. I don't
want to be bothered with a whole hive. Plus I suppose it would be
expensive these days. It's still a small tree. If the flowers were
still there, I'd be happy to pollinate them myself. It would have take
no more than 2 hours, I think.
I'll be taking posession of my hive later this month . I'm getting a going
hive with a brood super and one honey super for $350 - that's hive , bees
and all . I could have done it mail order package bees and built my own
supers/frames/etc for less money , but ... This will be an established
"family" , vs the mail order route which is basically a new queen and a
bunch of strangers . Additionally , these bees are local , and acclimated to
this area . And once I have a hive going well I can split it for just the
cost of hive bodies/etc . I think this first hive will be going over in the
orchard . I just wish it were here already , the blueberries are blooming
and the blackberries are budding , expected to bloom in 3-6 days .
And I gather there aren't enough air-crittrers to pollinate the black
and blue berries? I'll bet you could do it yourself with some sort of
350 isn't such a bad price, but I'm not in the mood for more projects.
Won't I need gloves and overalls and hat with a mask? Won't I have to
read bee podcasts? Or beecasts, as I call them. Well, you didnt' say
I'd have to do anything, only what you were doing. Fair enough.
Jeez Micky, could you put any more "straight lines" in a single post? (-
"Mommy, what's that man doing to the tree?" EEEWWWW!
"Is that how you make cherries and cream?"
Here's how you can do it without bees.
I don't think about such things, but if I had, I'd have counted on the
adults here not to spend time on such things.
Thanks a lot. Q-tips or small artist brush. I could do that.
OTOH, if I could really do it in two hours, maybe the 4 bees could do it
3 days. After all, they didnt' have to think about whether they were
doing it right, and maybe they worked 12 hours a day. The branches
flowered close to the trunk at first, and later near the end of each
If all the flowers lead to cherries, I'll have to find those bees and
give them a medal. I'm afraid though that if I pin medals on their
chests, I'll kill them. Maybe a ribbon around their neck.
BTW, the url you gave refers to tart cherries as self-fruitful, but
they've created varieties now that are sweet and only require one tree
On Monday, May 5, 2014 7:05:13 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
The bees all across the USA have been hit by a mysterious
syndrome called colony collapse disorder. A lot of research
has been done, but AFAIK, no one is sure if it's a disease,
pesticide, etc. Pesticide seems unlikely because it's so
sudden and widespread. I haven't seen a single honey bee
here in NJ for several years now. Right now the dandelions
are blooming and you used to see bees all over going after
them. this year, I haven't seen one.
Insecticide killing honey bees?
DDN Correspondent Posted on 10 May, 2014 at 10:34:AM
Honey bees are dying en masse due to exposure to a certain class of
insecticide, claims a recent study.
The phenomenon of en masse death of honey bees is called Colony Collapse
Disorder (CCD) and it is responsible for mass decline of the population o
the bee in the last five-six years, claimed the study.
The report was published today in the Bulletin of Insectology and it
recreated a 2012 study which first linked the bee-killing disease with
neonicotinoids. The same team of researchers from the Harvard School of
Public Health who was involved in the 2012 study did this study too.
According to lead author Chensheng (Alex) Lu, "We demonstrated again in this
study that neonicotinoids are highly likely to be responsible for triggering
CCD in honey bee hives that were healthy prior to the arrival of winter."
At least 18 bee colonies in three different locations in central
Massachusetts were examined by the researchers. For the study, the
researchers split each colony into three groups - one treated with a
neonicotinoid called imidacloprid, one with a neonicotinoid called
clothianidin, and one left in pristine condition to serve as a control
The study put to rest the speculation that honey bees were dying due to
"When CCD first emerged in honeybee colonies in the mid 2000s, N. ceranae
was put forward as a possible cause. Subsequent research in Europe, however,
has suggested N. ceranae was widespread in many areas before CCD and is not
associated with the phenomenon. Although other studies have suggested that
pesticides, particularly neonicotinoids, cause bees to become more
susceptible to mites or other parasites that then kill off the bees, today's
study found that bees in the CCD hives had the same levels of parasite
infestation as the control colonies," said a researcher.
On Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:49:44 AM UTC-4, HomeGuy wrote
And of course just like last week, you're still the village idiot. No one
has denied that neonicotinoids are on the list of possible causes. What
Sherlock has posted is one more study that suggests there may be a link.
One more study, that has just been released, does not make a conclusion.
If you look at ALL the research, the consensus of most of the researchers
as of now is that they still don't know what causes it. There have been
other studies that showed no correlation with neonicotinoids. Until that
study is thoroughly reviewd, digested, replicated, etc, it doesn't mean
a whole lot. We don't even know if the level of exposure to the chemical
was realistic and consistent with what bees actually would receive. Among
problems are here in urban NJ, there isn't much farming and farming is
where that class of pesticides is almost exclusively used. It's not
used on lawn/garden/turf products. Bees used to be abundant here, but
starting several years ago, I haven't seen a single one. Not a reduction,
but it's gone down to not a single one.
At the same time, in some areas treated with that pesticide, you don;t
have CCD. Also there have been prior episodes of sudden, mysterious bee
declines going back hundreds of years.
The bottom line is that as of now no one knows what causes it, that is
the conclusion of the overwhelming majority of researchers.
On Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:23:27 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
Funny thing happened. After I told you all that I hadn't seen a single
honey bee here in NJ for several years now, guess what? They're back. I f
noticed one buzzing around my door screen. Then outside, a holly tree had
probably a dozen buzzing around. AT least that's some good news.
It's more extensive than you think. Some bees have a lot of miles on them,
spending the summer in Iowa and the winter in California. I've seen flatbeds
loaded with hives with a big net over the whole mess headed down the road. I
don't even want to think about loading/unloading. Fortunately, I've only
ever hauled bee wood, the new frames amd so forth.
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