The only time it is important is if they were supposed to pick you up
at the airport ;-)
I am losing my bag phone next month and I bought a "geezer phone"
(jitterbug). It is $10 a month and 35 cents a minute for folks like me
that use about 5 minutes a month. No texting, no weather, no MP3s.
I would like a camera but I don't want one I need to email the
pictures to my PC from. I want one with a USB port.
Please say more about this $10/mo and 35cents a minute.
Sounds interesting to me -- only very rarely would a cell-phone
be useful for me (work at home), but the usual $70/mo for something
I'd never use seems pretty insane to me.
Mobile over a Jitterbug. It works out to about 8 bucks a month for me.
You can buy cards to keep it topped up, or set it to top up from a
credit card automatically every 60 days or when it dips below 20 bucks,
whichever comes first. That was the plan 4 years ago when I signed up- I
hear they have others now, but never bothered to look into them. But
I've been happy with the service, reliability, and seldom run into dead
spots. I have heard plenty of horror stories about Jitterbug.
Another option is Page Plus. They use the Verizon network. The
minimum charge is $10 every 4 months, which gives you 80 minutes.
Calls are 14 cents/min and minutes will rollover when you recharge. I
have had them for 2-3 years now and am very satisfied with them.
I see here it is down to $0.12/minute:
Do you have to remember every 4 months to add minutes? Or can you set up
something that automatically adds $10 every 120 days?
(I see the cheapest phone to purchase is $30.)
Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:54:54 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Maybe it has something to do with the way they say 'death' all the
time but act like they consider it not to be real (after all, "life
after death" is a contradiction when you accept the reality of death).
"God was invented by man for a reason, that
reason is no longer applicable."
The way kids always get a new one every time a new feature comes out, I
should be able to pick up a dozen at the dump on Saturday.
I saw a girl in McD's today, couldn't have been over 16, with what appeared
to be a Blackberry. Those aren't cheap.
I sure hope not!
The audio seems *vastly* better with land-line than
Especially when listening to call-ins or interviews on a radio station --
signal varies second by second and, I suppose, on where the
caller or interviewee is standing, which way he/she is facing, etc.
And high-freq sounds seem clipped off, too.
email@example.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
I'm sure there are a few party lines still in service somewhere,
probably in very small, rural exchanges.
Multi-party service was developed to accommodate demand for "lines" when
it out-paced the deployment of facilities.
Four, six and eight-party lines in rural areas were common until the
'70s. The exchange I serviced (local call to Omaha) had a couple or
three-dozen, two-party lines when I started the job in 1982. By then,
however, they had all been converted to the Central Office: They were
"bridged" in the C.O. (as opposed to out in the country) because, by
then, there were sufficient cable pairs to provide PRIVATE service to
all customers all the way from the C.O.
It is interesting to note that multi-party service actually requires
more equipment, work and trouble-shooting skill than private service.
It was rather amusing to be a <ahem> PARTY to the company process to
ENCOURAGE the last two-party subscribers to regrade to either private
service or, to still get the lower monthly rate, measured private
After a few years, many two-party subscribers were "bridged alone".
That is, they did not have a party mate. Their party mate had either
disconnected their service or regraded to 1FR (private) service.
When the telco contacted them, encouraging them to regrade to private
service which was, of course, a few bucks more per month, some converted
to private service. However, many saw no advantage to converting as
they hadn't had to share their line in a few years.
It was at this point the fun began: Those remaining, two-party
subscribers that were bridged alone were subsequently MATED to another
After years of virtually private service, they found themselves again
having to SHARE the line with a partymate. Most of the former hold outs
promptly called the Business Office and regraded to 1FR.
That does not, and never has, worked for ringing-back your own line.
With my ESS service, including No Solicitation and Voice Messaging
Service, dialing-back my own number invokes the No Solicitation
intercept and then proceeds to VMS.
My "plain" line, when dialed-back, simply rings busy as has been the
case for almost a century.
ANI (Automatic Number Identification) was implemented in numerous ways
over the years. The old, three-digit "958" probably doesn't work
anywhere anymore. Following The Divestiture (1984) and competition, it
was changed to a 7-digit number, the last four of which were changed
quarterly to prevent usage by non-telco personnel, particularly
Today, even the 7-digit ANI is all but gone. Instead, a technician
calls a toll-free number that connects to a voice-responding testing
system that reads-back the line number at the very least.
With the proliferation of Caller ID and wireless service, the need to
provide telco-based ANI and ringback is all but gone.
I doubt it. As you noted in your discussion, it is not
economical, and hasn't been since the 1980s.
Trust that that is not the case; it is indeed very
common. For example, Nortel DMS systems implement it
Yours is different; but that doesn't change the fact
that most digital switching systems implement reverting
call in that way.
My memory is foggy on that, but wasn't 958 a Wire
Chief's line on the CO's 2-wire board?
I'm fuzzy on some of that because in Alaska we were
virtually 100% digital by the mid-1980's, and at that
time the US in general was only about 33% digital. So
it has been more than just a couple decades since I've
seen a Step office, for example.
Different LECs invented different policy.
For example, the damnedest on I can remember is a
private network (within the Oil Industry) where they
chose to have *all* of the test numbers utilize the
extra 4 digits from a 4x4 keypad that are not on a 3x4
keypad. If I remember right, they are commonly called
'A', 'B', 'C', and 'D'. But with a DMS-200 if one
enters "907852AAAA", it doesn't dial it. I don't
remember now what the offset was, but something like
starting at 'K' instead of 'A'. It was annoying.
With the PSTN we could have Carrier Relations simply
tell them that was unacceptable, change it or else. But
on a private network, they could do as they wished.
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) firstname.lastname@example.org
Ditto. Party line and private line. I'd get a busy signal, hang up,
and the phone would ring.
Dad...? I'm stupid, not crazy.
But for little sisters midway between cycles waiting for a call from a
older boy... nnnn... wait for it.... Priceless!
I wrote that... still in court...
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