HVAC questions welcomed at alt.hvac

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Larry F wrote:

On most of the forums such as alt.hvac and web sites where "pros" are posting, it seems like they flame DIYers especially if prices are discussed. There is a fear of the free market. Hey' everybody else works in a job market where market forces determine the price! Therefore, if it is necessary to do so, don't hesitate to post prices. Comparison shopping is good. Everyone understand that specific circumstances may be different and all prices posted aren't comparable, but more information is always good.
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It is sad to see a few members of some groups play their little games - that is what hiding behind an electronic network will do - bring out the AH's. It also brings out people who have real expertise and offer their expertise and knowledge to the rest of us.
Like to be able to meet some of these AH's - always wondered what their problem(s) are - psych types call it compensation for an actual or percieved problem. Ah well may the AH's depart the gene pool quickly.
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Nexus7 wrote:

There's a difference between good, useful information and useless information. Comparing things like a computer or a car, where everything is identical, is fine - there will still be regional variations, but relatively small. It just doesn't work that way in construction. The labor and material prices vary so widely from place to place, even in the same state, that the numbers become pretty much meaningless to someone from a different area.
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"alt.hvac is changing for the good. All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed"
I posted a question there - and promptly got told by an AH that consumers did not belong on that site. Several people jumped on his greasy back.
I had a specific question - see below
Question posted on alt hvac Am in planning stage of building a new home in S WI. Have talked to several HVAC dealers - learned tube type HX are much more reliable than
clamshells - I suppose most agree with that.
Now are there differences between tube type HX's from manufacturer to manufacturer. Most of the internal parts look very similiar - like PC's - umpteen brands with very few manufacturer's of the basic parts.
Are there differences in types of HX tubes - if so which brand(s) are better and why.
Responses seemed to indicate that there are differences in HX tube design. Amen on the biggest priority being getting a system correctly designed and installed. Now back to the question - which manufacturer makes a better HX tube or on the flip side - whose should be avoided. They all looked the same to me - there are some differences.
Thanks all
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butch burton wrote:

Don't know which specific model/manufacturer is better, but it would be reflected in the overall reliability of the model. Newer models use different designs and materials (stainless, "Tufsteel", etc.), so the reliability may vary year to year. As a homeowner, I don't think you need be concerned about this aspect, and instead concentrate on a good installer and warranty.
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