What would be a good easy-to-find glue for outside wood?
Borden's white glue says to not to submerge item, but doesn't say it can't get wet. Or would Borden's hide glue be better?
Planned use: I can't get matching pickets for my fence anymore, so to avoid using too many new ones from what I have, sometimes I glue an old one back together. And this weekend, I'm screwing a patch into my neighbor's fence 2x4, that rests on the edge of sheet of t-11 and a couple posts, but I'd like to glue the end of the new patch to the old
2x4, if I can.
Meirman
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Any of the popular woodworking glues should be fine. I use Titebond II or III simply because . . .well . . . because. I have used it to glue up splits in some of my redwood fencing and it has held for years.
Hide glue is water soluble so would not be a good choice.
Elmer's waterproof glue (a Borden product). This is a resorcinol glue that comes in two parts--dry powder and liquid and is purple when mixed so it will leave a dark glue line. Works! As an example the ear on a ceramic rabbit fell off about 3 years ago. I glued it together and it is still holding together after two winters and two summers of sprinkler water twice a week. Just be sure that you follow the directions and use the correct proportions.
| > What would be a good easy-to-find glue for outside wood? | >
| > Borden's white glue says to not to submerge item, but doesn't say it | > can't get wet. Or would Borden's hide glue be better? | >
| > Planned use: I can't get matching pickets for my fence anymore, so to | > avoid using too many new ones from what I have, sometimes I glue an | > old one back together. And this weekend, I'm screwing a patch into my | > neighbor's fence 2x4, that rests on the edge of sheet of t-11 and a | > couple posts, but I'd like to glue the end of the new patch to the old | > 2x4, if I can. | >
| > Meirman | >
| > If emailing, please let me know whether | > or not you are posting the same letter. | >
| > Change domain to erols.com, if necessary. | I had good luck with Gorilla Glue.
In alt.home.repair on Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:15:46 -0400 meirman posted:
Thanks a lot to everyone. I'm off to the hardware store right now.
Thanks especially, No one, for telling me about the hide glue. I know I have a bottle, although I can't find it right now. I bought it because it seemed important, for some reason.
I meant to say Elmer's glue. I could only remember the name Borden, who makes it. Dairy, cows, cowhide, it's all related. I think Elmer is Elsie the cow's husband.
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Franklin has been putting it in plastic squeeze bottles for some years now. It contains urea to keep it from curing in the bottle at ambient temperature. Outside the bottle, it cures over several hours but at least you don't have to heat it up in a glue pot.
In alt.home.repair on Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:11:03 -0400 willshak posted:
I can believe it.
It came in the same plastic bottles that the white glue does.
They had Tite-Bond II, but not III. I figured I'd buy III when I can find it, so this time I just bought Elmers ProBond Professional Strength for Exterior Use. They also had the exterior glue in 4 oz bottles for about a third of this 12 oz bottle. But this sounded better.
I rebuilt my privacy fence (around a tiny patio in front of the kitchen sliding glass door) about 3 years ago. I share the center wall of it with my next door neighbor (It's shaped like an E.) Her ex-husband and his friends rebuilt her fence 5 years ago, but even though he does all kinds of DIY jobs, he didn't use treated wood, and the pieces of new wood he added are already rotting.
Plus he left the center post we have in common. It's 25 years old and rotting, but I'm going to squeeze a couple more years out of it. It will be cold soon, and I have other things to do.
BTW, from their web site: Elsie the Cow became Borden's very popular "Spokescow" in the late
1930's. She was a big hit at the 1939 New York World's Fair, and soon afterwards the character of Elmer the Bull was created as Elsie's husband. In the late 1940's, Borden's new Chemical Division asked to use Elsie for its new white glue product. The thought of Elsie representing a non-food product didn't seem appropriate, so as a compromise, Elmer was loaned to Chemical as their very own "spokesbull". To this day, Elmer the Bull still represents the most recognized adhesive company.
The website says twice that their glues are totally synthetic, no cows or horses, but they don't say what the glue used to be made out of. I think they are embarrassed.
Meirman
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Yes hide glue is still available and used by the better restorer's. In particular the gluing the bellows back on when you rebuild a player piano is what I use it for. It enables it to be taken back apart again for another rebuild and was what was usewd originally. If you use white glue you have to saw them off! Hide glue now available in flakes and is refined so it is normally not smelly, unless you let it set to long too wet and mold forms. Yes I used it in shop class too and know what you mean. That stuff available then was not refined and decomposed.
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