Garage Framing Question

[Tony Hwang]

Hi, R13 insulation? Where do you live?

[Wayne Whitney]

Umm, I just quoted the section of the National Electric Code which says that the required receptacle outlets have to be under 5.5' above finish floor.

Wayne

[HeyBub]

But isn't the code like the Ten Commandments? No penalty within the code for a violation?

[Steve Barker DLT]

AHHHHHHH..... I missed that. (both in your reply and in the book) I stand corrected...

s

[Steve Barker DLT]

HUH!?

[cshenk]

"Wayne Whitney" wrote

Ah, I see. I was a little confused too. Layman's terms is this is where you get the one outlet per wall idea (obviously in a larger room, you end up with 2).

I know what I'd 'want' in a garage conversion, is an outlet every 3-4 feet or so so I could have lots of options in decorating without ever having to mess with extension cords.

[cshenk]

"Steve Barker DLT" wrote

No, but this would be a definate 'ask the code guys in Maryland' since he's converting it and it may well apply to the new structure.

Also, much simpler to do it now when it's still just framing!

One of the drawbacks of my house is no outlets in either bathroom.

[cshenk]

Funny thing on Japan construction. Most rooms also had an outlet in the ceiling, usually by the walls. Also the ceiling lights were a funny looking 'plug and twist' sort that were provided by the tenant so no lights anyplace til you got your own.

[cshenk]

"Tony Hwang" wrote

Coastal Maryland, sounded like nearish Baltimore or possibly more inland towards Wilmington. Very close to my Norfolk area climate.

He'd do better with more insulation, but he's not the real cold areas. More like heat in summer would be his issue I suspect. Same fix though. I'm just a little warmer here by usually some 5 degrees? About 200 miles south of him it sounded like.

Example of our weather here in Norfolk: We got snow flurries that didnt stick, 3 times last winter. I've been away for a few years but before in the 6 years here, we had sticking snow every other year and only one snowstorm of real note (about 10 inches stuck). He gets sticking snow most years as that nominal 5 degrees colder is just where it hits.

Thats why I'm sure his cinderblock portion can just be covered with something pretty if he wants. It obviously wont 'hurt' to insulate it, but not as needed as those in colder climates are thinking. Some of that foam board then cover it with something pretty would do nicely for his needs. Now if he were in Vermont or Chiago or something, it would be a whole nuther story!

[Steve Barker DLT]

That's what the 12' rule is supposed to accomplish. That way, a lamp or what not is never more than 6' from an outlet. Lamps come with a 6' cord.

4' apart would be quite the overkill. s

[cshenk]

"Steve Barker DLT" wrote

True, but we now have more 'stuff' to plug in. Say he wants the entertainment room we have with PS2, TV, Gamecube, and a spare plug for charging the DS2 kids thingie. You need all pretty close to the same spot. He (or any of us) could pick a spot and put the extra outlet there, but in time it may change on where he wants it as SWMBO decides to move furniture!

So, I'd 'dream' of lots of outlets. Required? no. Easy to do now? yes.

Oh and if he doesnt have a good one for Xmas lights outside at the front of the house, this is the time to add it as he pulls off the garage door and makes a wall there.