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Wonder what everyone is paying. I took my electric bill cost this month, $120 for 1200 kwh. That's 9.6 cents per kwh. That includes all costs including tax. In areas not far away, another distribution and generator get over on everyone with high distribution cost, so changing generator company has little effect. They are paying 16 cents per kwh or 66% more. I am currently locked down, but still this is about the highest bill in my 6 years. Been running more air co during. My bill would be about $200 living in the other area.
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Short answer 10.7 cents a KW
Electric service amount 212.50** Storm charge 2.49 Gross receipts tax 5.51 Franchise charge 7.17 Total new charges $227.67 Total amount you owe $227.67 kWh used 2115 Energy usage Last This year year kWh this month 2327 2115 Service days 30 29 kWh/day 78 73 **The electric service amount includes the following charges: Customer charge: $5.90 per month Fuel: $91.52 (First 1000 kWh at $0.038000) (Over 1000 kWh at $0.048000) Non-fuel: $115.08 (First 1000 kWh at $0.049140) (Over 1000 kWh at $0.059140)
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responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/electric-costs-644863-.htm DA wrote:
gregz wrote:

including tax.
Well, lucky you! 17.7 cents/KWh here in PA , approx 1.5 cents/kWh higher than last year.
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I was referring to duquesne light in Pittsburgh costing more. I used to live in an area serviced by them. After moving, I though my meter was giving me a break. I got to compare bills from the two companies, mine, west Penn power, or first energy. Used to have allegheny power. It's frustrating living across the street from people paying far less. That used to be me.
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responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/electric-costs-644863-.htm DA wrote: gregz wrote:

Now that power in PA is deregulated, maybe you can shop around for a better rate supplier? Check out PA Public Utility Commission's site, they actually have a page for Duquesne Light, where you pick which type power you want (residential?) and a number of suppliers come up:
http://www.papowerswitch.com/shop-for-electricity/shop-for-your-home/by-distributor/duquesne-light /
That said, I'm still sitting on a fence about my PECO power - plenty of alternative suppliers already called (some are more aggressive at selling than others) but I just can't bring myself to switch from a distributor to a supplier. Not yet anyway. Sorta like switching from the actual phone company to a CLEC back in the day when CLECs had no distribution of their own. So many went bust because they were just selling air ...
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I did it here in CT a couple of y ears ago. Simple to do.
1. keep in mind, they are all thieving bastards. 2. narrow down the potential supplier to the reliable, such as Con-Ed, Levco, etc. 3. choose a fixed rate, no contract supplier 4. change and save money. I'm saving $12 to $15 a month compared to "the electric company" we used to have.
There are many brokers buying and reselling power, all making a tiny bit on every transaction. Brokerage houses buy power, add a profit and take away some of the savings that potentially could go to you. Deregulation made a handful of people very wealthy taking your money.
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On 8/4/2011 12:20 PM, DA wrote:

Pgh PA payed:
2508 kwh - $372.40 = 14.8 cents/kwh
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National Grid - near Schenectady, NY; $266 for 1827 KWh -- 14.6 cents. [the electricity costs 6.7-- the rest is delivery, fees & taxes]
Looking just at July bills for the past 5 yrs you have to go back to 2005 to find cheaper power.
It is a penny cheaper than last year. Same as 2 years ago. Penny less than 3 yrs ago.
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Last month, Central Colorado. All charges included. $0.10.77 per KW. WW
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Louisville Gas & Electric here. They are a monopoly, no other providers available.
Electric 9.42 cents per kwh 618 kwh for June Of the total electric bill for $58.22, $13.57 was fees.
Gas $2.07 per ccf (1 ccf = about 1.031 therm) 10 ccf for June (1 ccf = 100 cubic feet) Of the total gas bill for $20.69, $15.08 was fees, including a $12.50 "Basic Service Charge".
Total June (July bill hasn't arrived yet) bill was $82.85. Not bad for a ranch house built 1955, with no insulation in the walls, and very little in the attic. I turn the central air off when I go to work, and on at 77 or 78 degrees when I get home.
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On 8/4/2011 12:07 PM, gregz wrote:

I leave bills to wife but decided to look and it is confusing. Appears to be 11.17 per kwh for Delmarva in New Castle County, DE. Got a new smart meter a short time back and I assume maybe some savings with big electric use like running clothes drier in the evening as they detail my electric use (spy on me) ;)
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:07:23 +0000, gregz wrote:

Ours up here in northern MN is a bit complicated...
At the moment it's s 8.26 c/kwh for our regular supply, and 5.9 c/kwh for off-peak (water heater, drier, baseboard heat).
We get hit for a "renewable energy market adjustment" of 0.5 c/kwh on both services though, then a "purchased power cost adjustment" of 1.7 c/ kwh on the main supply and 1.4 c/kwh on the off-peak supply.
On top of that we've got a $29.50 "access charge" on the main meter (but with a $2 discount), and a $2.50 "access charge" on the off-peak meter (no discount), and a state tax of $7.66 for the entire service.
It gets even more messy in the colder months, when we're using more power for heating, as any off-peak usage over 500kwh is charged at a lower rate than the first 500kwh is (I think it was around 4.9 c/kwh last winter).
All-in, last month's works out to an average of 14.8 c/kwh I think - but in winter the really cheap off-peak kicks in as we use the baseboard heat though, while our consumption on the main meter stays about the same. I don't think we'll have the $15 in "purchased power cost adjustment" then, either (our power company screwed up and didn't anticipate demand properly one month, and they're passing those extra costs onto their customers).
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You are paying about half of European prices at the moment. This is because the $ is the world's reserve currency and many fuels are priced in dollars. This is a situation that is shortly likely to change. Then you will all have to come into the real world where petrol/gas costs four times what you pay for it now and electricity and (natural) gas are expensive items. I expect bankers will still be nice and warm/cool in their houses.
I have a photovoltaic grid tie array on my roof that generates four times the electricity that I use, so they pay me far more than I pay them. So I personally don't have to worry about electricity prices.
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On 8/4/2011 3:22 PM, harryagain wrote:

I'd wager, in Europe, costs are higher because of the heavy hand of the socialist governments and much higher taxes and green energy subsidies.
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Aha! Another Europe expert, have you been here or just watch Fox TV? Our socialist Bliar is gone, haven't you heard? And green energy is better than none at all. Now you are broke you will have to pay the real costs which you haven't for years. The Fukushima disaster means that more countries will abandon nuclear so raising the costs of fossil fuels. There is nearly as much socialism in America as over here. Let's see. Socialist roads. Socialist schools. Socialist Army/Airforce. Socialist garbage collection. Socialist mortgages. Socialist police (or are they Nazi?) Socialist firefighters. Just a few.
The only non socialist things are bankers and look where they have gotten. You sound like a republican. Heh Heh. I hope you enjoy paying your tax money to the bankers/insurers. Hey, does that mean they are now socialist? Capitalism was suspended when it came to them I see.
America, the only place where the government robs the poor to give to the rich!!!
I hear your gov has made it legal to borrow even more. Never mind, the poor will get to pay it back. They will end up picking cotton on a dollar an hour.
Your gov. plan is to allow inflation to run riot so they can pay off the debt cheaply. Tough shit if you have a pension or savings, they will be worthless. You wait and see. The bankers have shifted their money abroad.
It was on Russian Television today that Apple has more ready cash than the US government. They keep most of it in China apparently.
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Using the UK average untaxed pump price for unleaded petrol of 0.4572 per litre (from the December 2010 average taxed price of 1.221 per litre,the duty rate of 0.5819 per litre and the then VAT rate of 17.5%) this would give a January 2011 taxed price of 1.256 per litre (5.71 per imperial gallon or 4.75 per U.S. gallon) - that is equivalent to a tax rate of 175%.
For the first quarter of 2009, the mean state gasoline tax is 27.2 cents per US gallon, plus 18.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 45.6 cents per US gallon (12.0/L). YOu going to try to tell me that these two are any where near the same?? Well, you probably are.
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Well it shows here $3.75/US gallon. Where do you get $0.456/US gallon? Or do you live in Venezuela? http://www.eia.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
Yesterday in UK the price of petrol was 1.40/litre = $2.27/litre $10.00/imperial gallon = about $8.70/US gallon.. Most of which is tax. However apart from you paying more for crude oil in the future, petrol tax is one of the easiest ways for the gov to tax the poor. You'll see.
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Read it again, Harry. the TAX is 45
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That is for the TAXES, just like the duty rate and VAT on the English example above it.
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On 8/4/2011 4:08 PM, harryagain wrote:

not in your lifetime, uphill gardener.

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