consumer grade HVLP?

Hello,
I'm a hobbyist woodworker and also dabble in the occassional DIY project and am looking to spedn less than $200 on an HVLP unit. I see that my options are limited to the Wagner XTRA Paint Crew ($178) or the Campbell Hausfeld HV1001 ($179.95). I have seen plenty of bad reviews for Wagner products but can't find any on CH. Can anyone here chime in with experiences with either unit?
Thanks.
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The CH stuff is just as bad as Wagner. DAMHIKT.
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Some folks have posred favorable results with the Harbor Freight hvlp conversion gun which is sometimes under $50. You need a good size air compressor to run it. I have one on the shelf but have not had time to try it out.
What are you trying to spray? Sometimes a brush is easier than having to cleanup a gun. Also the material you want to spray affects the correct spray equipment.

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You are well positioned to buy yourself a pretty good gun, with that budget. I'm assuming that you're budgeting $200 for a gun, from what you post above. Within that budget, there is no need to look at low end consumer guns like you will find at HF, when you can go to Keystone Automotive or a like supplier of body shops, and buy a good quality aftermarket gun. For somewhere around $150 you can buy a gun that will serve you forever, that will spray almost any type of paint (except latex which is not a paint - it's a..... ummmm.... something else), and that you will be able to get parts for as your needs change, etc. CH makes good compressors, but I'm not really impressed with the air equipment they sell - I'd stay away from the CH guns. With a decent quality gun you'll be able to get the spray patterns you need for different applications (a decent fan), the right adjustments to accomodate different materials, (those two statements are inter-related), a reliable HVLP design inside the gun - not all guns sold as HVLP really give you HVLP. On cheaper guns, in order to atomize the paint you end up cranking up the pressure and the gun does not somehow magically reduce it to under 25psi. What you end up with is nothing more than a standard gun and none of the benefits of HVLP.
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I have found consumer grade most everything will not be a good choise if you plan on using it for years even as a hobby. Your final results will differ and unit life questionable. alt rec woodworking ,[if I have the site name right,] might have people that use them often
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Mitch,

I bought an inexpensive HVLP unit from Harbor Freight for less than $100. You can also find similar units at Rockler.com.
It's obviously a low end sprayer, but we used it to apply a semi-opaque stain to our entire house and it worked very well. I haven't had a chance to try it for anything else yet.
The only real problem we had was the stain would dry and clump up at the nozzle after 30-45 minutes spraying. So, every now and then I'd have to stop, take the nozzle apart and clean it up. But, that was a few minutes at most and I suspect it was due to the thick latex stain. I'm guessing a thinner stain or finish would spray nicer without the clumping problems.
The sprayer has a small turbine (sounds like a vacuum cleaner when it's running), a 15 foot hose, and the sprayer/paint pot. No air compressor is needed. Fairly simple system, but it works nicely.
Anthony
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Close on name but no cigar, it's rec.woodworking. Jeff Jewitt at www.homesteadfinishing.com has several forums for discussion and has a multitude of guns and is very willing to discuss and answer questions.
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Several posters report carrying a toothbrush and water supply when spraying WB products. Spray a bit and brush a bit almost like "Rinse and repeat".
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Jim,

Amateur terminology... :)
We used Behr Plus 10 Semi-Opaque Stain, which was fairly thick. Almost like a thin paint.
I "thought" the Behr stain had latex in it, but that was over a year ago so I don't remember for sure.
In any case, when we were spraying it, it would dry up in the nozzle and leave stringy little clumps. The water based stain was easy to clean up with a bucket of water nearby, and we could get back to spraying quickly.
Anthony
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Mitch,
I thought the wagner paint crew was an airless sprayer?
If there is any chance you can spend more buy this unit: http://www.lemmer.com/t55-hvlp-turbine.htm
You will not be sorry!
AZCRAIG
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What's a "thick latex stain"?
I can understand thick stains,and thick latex paint,but I've not heard of latex stains.
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Why would it have latex in it? (as a -stain-) Latex is rubber,not a pigment.

Were you using the supplied device to test the viscosity?
My Harbor Freight $70 HVLP sprayer(which I've not yet used) has a viscosity cup to get the proper thinness for spraying.It's pretty noisy,though.
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