Briggs & Stratton 16HP problems

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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:20:14 AM UTC-4, Frank Thompson wrote:

I take it that the trash in the carb wasn't gunk from gas gone bad. Did they give you any description of what it was and how it might have gotten there?
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Frank-
There should be a fuel filter. It might be inside the fuel tank or part of the fuel valve. If it is damaged or not there, I suggest you add an in-line filter.
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trader_4... no, the guy who delivered it did not know.. tomorrow I will call and ask... I am very curious to find out
fred... there is an external filter in the gas line a very short distance from where the line enters the carb
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On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:16:36 AM UTC-4, Frank Thompson wrote:

all and ask... I am very curious to find out

from where the line enters the carb
Was very frustrated over what I was told... i.e. there was some water in th e carb. {Please see my original post & you will see why I frustrated.. wha t else could I have done). The gasolene in the tank that was the also used to fuel ATV and also used to supply very small container to mix chain saw fuel with oil. No other engines had this problem!
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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:06:21 AM UTC-4, Frank Thompson wrote:

call and ask... I am very curious to find out

ce from where the line enters the carb

the carb. {Please see my original post & you will see why I frustrated.. w hat else could I have done). The gasolene in the tank that was the also us ed to fuel ATV and also used to supply very small container to mix chain sa w fuel with oil. No other engines had this problem!
You say you drained the fuel tank at the end of the season. And that it ran OK for 20 mins this season. That would seem to suggest that the water was in the fuel you just put in it. Did that gas sit around all winter? If so, one important thing you could do is not end the season with a can of gas. Either use it up, put it in a vehicle, etc.
Like you say, I've had gas sit around like that and had no problems. I amost always have stabilizer in it. On the other hand, for some reason, my Sear snowblower has had a fouled carb couple times, once just sitting for a few months. With the lawnmower, leaf blower, etc, I've never had a problem. And this problem was the typical gunk from alscohol/gas in the carb, not actual water.
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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:06:46 AM UTC-1, trader_4 wrote: {Please see my original post & you will see why I frustrated.. what else c ould I have done). The gasolene in the tank that was the also used to fuel ATV and also used to supply very small container to mix chain saw fuel wit h oil. No other engines had this problem!

Yes

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portant thing you could do is not end the season with a can of gas. Either use it up, put it in a vehicle, etc.

Me too.
Weed eater, two chain saws, and ATV ran fine with same fuel.

This could very well be correct.
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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:04:49 AM UTC-4, Frank Thompson wrote:

could I have done). The gasolene in the tank that was the also used to fu el ATV and also used to supply very small container to mix chain saw fuel w ith oil. No other engines had this problem!

important thing you could do is not end the season with a can of gas. Eith er

I meant the problem I experienced was the gunk type. Not so sure about yours. When I've had them gunked up, it just wouldn't start. I can also see it running rough, hard to start, etc. How it runs OK for 20 mins, then fails from gunk, may be possible, but I haven't seen it.
Did you read the manual for the proper winterization procedure? Is there a way to drain the carb bowl, etc?
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On Tue, 20 May 2014 03:06:21 -0700 (PDT), Frank Thompson

Ethanol "grabs" the water - condensation and phase separation WILL get you. Mabee you got the water off the bottom of the can in the mower???
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On Tue, 20 May 2014 06:04:49 -0700 (PDT), Frank Thompson

Stabilized will NOT prevent moisture from being attracted to the fuel, or prevent it settling out. Stabilizer only prevents the fuel oxidizing in the can. Wate of money if the gas will be used within a couple months. Keep gas in SEALED containers, in cool, stable temperatures.
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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:56:27 PM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

e could I have done). The gasolene in the tank that was the also used to f uel ATV and also used to supply very small container to mix chain saw fuel with oil. No other engines had this problem!

important thing you could do is not end the season with a can of gas. Eit her

There are a variety of gasoline stabilizer product, not just one. Some claim to help with the alcohol/water problem. Overall it would seem pretty crazy to me for companies to be selling stabilizer that's useless against the alcohol/water problem when almost all small engines are using E10 now. What good is it to stabilize gas if it turns to crap because of the water?
I would think a big part of the water problem is solved by just keeping the container tightly sealed so no moisture can get in.
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My neighbour "the professor" got 25 years out of his. Broke the recoil spring on the starter on Saturday and I told him it wasn't worth spending any time on. He went and bought a 40 volt lithium ion powered electric.
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