Tree Identification (not exactly gardening is it)

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I have been trying to ID a tree that I have in my yard. Please help if you can.
* It is in the upper 3rd of Georgia east of Atlanta. * 50 feet tall * bark looks like Sweet Gum (but is not) * leaves are: ** untoothed simple (5 to 6 inches long) ** dark green in summer ** turn dark red in august (seems early) ** begin falling in late august (nearly bare by Nov)
* Does not drop limbs regularly * seemingly uncommon as there are no others around
I have looked on lots of tree and leaf ID websites but have not found it yet.
Any ideas?
Thanks, TD
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On 10 Sep 2004 05:52:14 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

This is just a wild guess, so don't get your hopes up :-), but your description might fit the Sourwood tree, Oxydendron arboreum. Google will turn up lots of hits, but here's one to start with: http://www.cdr3.com/sourwood /
If my guess is wrong, it probably would help if you could describe the tree's flowers (and the bloom season) and fruit.
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Can you post a picture on a Web site? Try sci.bio.botany, but be warned, if you haven't Googled or consulted a field guide, you may get some rude answers. My first suggestion would be to buy yourself a field guide to North American trees, Eastern edition. They are not expensive. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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Sourwood would be my first guess, too, but the flowers are so distinctive and held so long that I can't imagine the poster would omit that detail.
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Oooo, that is very close! This is only our second fall with the tree and I don't remember any flowers as described on the web. However, the pictures of the big ones are a dead ringer for the one that I have.
I'll take a second look in the AM. Thanks for getting back so soon.
TD
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If its 50 feet tall it sounds more like a black gum, Nyssa sylvatica. That is rather large for a sourwood.
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But at 50', may rather a Sourgum (Blackgum, Tupelo) tree? The above description fits. Do some of the branches grow almost perpendicular to the trunk, straight out? http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/factsheets/trees-new/nyssa_sylvatica.html
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Rachel,
That one is very close. Especially the leaves which get brown splotches within a few days of turning red.
The limbs however do not grow perpendicular to the trunk. Most major limbs appear to be at less than 45%.
The link that maxsilverstar sent earlier (http://www.cdr3.com/sourwood /) has a dead ringer for the shape. It is the 7th picture from the top. Very gnarly and imperfect. Nothing like any of the full round ornamental pics I've seen.
Thanks all for the help.
TD
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http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/factsheets/trees-new/nyssa_sylvatica.html
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