Someone was telling me about a liquid rubber shower pan that you apply with
a paint roller, but couldn't remember the name, anybody heard of it or know
an online link?
I got the impression it was sort of like that can of liquid material you dip
pliers handles in.
Hey thanks Rico.
Welp, looks like there's no way around it, I'm carrying cement backerboard
up a flight of stairs.
Was hoping to avoid that somehow.
I never get to do anything the easy way..........heh
There are other products besides Redgard. Familiarize yourself with
Schlutter's product line - excellent materials.
You should investigate Wedi board as a replacement for cement board.
It's great stuff. It's about 25% of the wieght of cement board, adds
insulation, sound deadening, takes tile and thinset beautifully, and
makes drywall seem tough to work with in comparision.
They're a little nifongedto find on the web, but the stuff is
available at a couple of local lumberyards and some tile houses
Here's some contact information:
I've used that stuff to make a wash basin stand that will be tiled. Can be
cut with a knife/box cutter - a saw goes through it like butter. The makers
sell a special cement/glue for joints but the price seems high in the UK. I
found that a cheaper liquid nails type product also worked well (I left some
on scrap foam overnight first as I thought the foam core might be disolved
by the glue solvent).
I put some wood blocks in where screws will go for a towel rail (just cut
round the outline of the block with the knife and glue it in the hole).. but
that's overkill really as I'm using 10mm thick travertine tiles and could
fix into those ok.
Which also goes by the name of http://preview.tinyurl.com/8gn3r
Is this how prophyalctic...um, profilact...propillact...rubbbers are made?
Doesn't matter how it looks cause it won't be seen when the job is done,
just like a regular shower pan.
I want it for, uh, a shower pan, that goes from floor to ceiling, then it
will be covered in tile.
Been there, done that, will do it again if I have to.
I heard about this other stuff, Redgard, and thought I'd check into it.
Back to the original question, have you ever heard of it (Redgard, or
comparable) or know anything about it?
I've used Redgard under tile floors to seal cracks. That's an intended
use. I roll it on with a foam roller, about a foot on either side of the
crack. It makes a thin film that will seal moisture coming through the
crack from the ground below.
I don't think it will make a heavy enough barrier to use as a shower pan
unless you put on many, many coats. If you do that, it might no longer
work as intended.
Get a PVC liner from the hardware store that's intended for the purpose.
It will definitely perform properly. You can get some extra and run it
up the wall, though you'll have an issue with the joints.
Been reading a forum about the Redgard where people have applied 3 coats of
the stuff as a shower pan and they've indicated its pretty expensive.
I'll have to check it out at Home Depot the next time I'm there.
In my last house in FL I bought a roll of pan material that was 4' wide x
25' long and that may be what I end up doing this time as well.
Probably Redguard. I saw it at my local Home Depot the other day.
Personally, I wouldn't rely on it as a shower pan. Even if it works to
waterproof the pan, I think you would run into problems where the drain
I used Schluter Kerdi on our 6'x6' tile shower. It's great stuff. You
install your backerboard and mud bed, apply the Kerdi, and tile right over
it. They even have a special drain that's made to work with the Kerdi
Kerdi is nice because you only need a single mud bed, instead of two like
you would do with a vinyl liner.
It's a little expensive, but worth it in my opinion. It puts the
waterproofing right under the tile, rather than underneath the second mud
You might want to stop by the www.johnbridge.com tile forum. Lots of folks
there use Kerdi and could give you tips and advice.
As for the backerboard, I used Hardibacker. It comes in 3'x5' sheets, cuts
easily, and is lighter than durock.
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