Or that the took over command under NATO in Afghanistan when the US wanted to
free troops for Iraq?
Or that their navy patrolled the Persian Gulf protecting US ships in the lead-in
to the Iraq invasion?
Or that they are the only country on the planet to have contributed troops to
_every_ UN peacekeeping mission since the UN came into being?
Or that they fought in _all_ years of both WWI and WWII? And were the first to
win a major victory against the Germans in WWI while the yanks were still hiding
The Canadian reputation stands. The US reputation is sinking.
Yes and even with some of the name calling and snide comments made in this
thread. I'm sure we Canadians would still take your citizens in and feed and
shelter them, and make them feel welcome if another national crises were to
happen again. Not that I would want to see that again any time soon. Try to
think of us like your mom, we may not go to the bars and strip joints with
you. But when things turn to shit on a night out ,it's nice to know mom's
there to give you a meal and a bed.:-)
( My intent with the above was not to suggest that Canadians are your
parents/ guardians or any other controlling factor to the US, just that we
will no doubt try to do in the future what we have tried to do in the past.)
So shooting them is OK?
We should do to others as others have done to us. We can crawl into the
cutter with them if that is what it takes to win the war. If the enemy does
not follow the rules and we do, we cannot win.
War is war.
War is war, I agree.
A few years back, a few Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon and held
as hostages. The Americans went into 'negotiations-mode'. A few days
later, a couple of Russians were kidnapped with the result that the
brothers of the kidnappers were shot and dropped off in front of the
house where they lived. The Russian hostages were set free immediatly.
It showed resolve and good intelligence.
Put another way: "You can't bring a knife to a gun fight." (Daneliuk
will likely misconstrue this as my liking the Russians more than the
Americans, so be it.)
When they found Hussein, there should have been a picture, similar to
the execution of the Saigon police chief.
What is up for debate is the reason for this war.
One does fight fire by removing fuel, heat or oxygen.
Depending on whom you mean by "them", in battle, sure. Shooting
them is OK, same as shooting uniformed soldiers. If they surrender
or are captured alive, they become protected persons. It's still OK
to shoot them, or to execute them in any other 'humane' way, so
long as they have been duly convicted of capital offenses.
False. Not only can we win without abandoning our principles, we
cannot win if we do.
Abandonment of our principles is suicide.
| Leon wrote:
|| We should do to others as others have done to us. We can crawl
|| into the cutter with them if that is what it takes to win the war.
|| If the enemy does not follow the rules and we do, we cannot win.
| False. Not only can we win without abandoning our principles, we
| cannot win if we do.
| Abandonment of our principles is suicide.
Well said. Thank you.
DeSoto, Iowa USA
Tim Daneliuk (in firstname.lastname@example.org) said:
| email@example.com wrote:
|| False. Not only can we win without abandoning our principles, we
|| cannot win if we do.
|| Abandonment of our principles is suicide.
| So is clinging to them to the point where we are annihilated.
| Survival comes before legal nuance notwithstanding the fantasyland
| inhabited by a good many of the war critics.
It would seem that you've not noticed the rather large number of men
and women who valued our principles more highly than their personal
survival - and the lesser (but still awesomely large) number who did
not, in fact, survive - all so that you and I might live in what you
so casually refer to as "fantasyland".
If you choose to discard our fundamental principles in favor of some
hoped-for longevity; most will understand - and I would guess that
most will also be ashamed for you.
DeSoto, Iowa USA
An old Philly guy (via Boston) said it best:
"Those Who Would Sacrifice Liberty for Security Deserve Neither."
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
It is the very *defense* of Liberty that requires making these kinds of
hard decisions. You are severely kidding yourself if you think
the historic defenders of our Liberty did not make naughty choices
in said quest.
Tim Daneliuk firstname.lastname@example.org
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