They would at least be more reliable, because people like you would
subject their commentary to excruciating analysis and verification,
unlike the simple acceptance you give to pronouncements from the NYT.
Interesting parsing of my comment. You have to separate facts from
opinions and conclusions. My point was that the above mentioned
entities are subject to vigorous scrutiny from their detractors, to the
point that the smallest tittle of factual error causes the detractors to
come up with said error in their hands yelling, "Eureka! Factual error!
Factual Error! Therefore all other facts and conclusions spouted by this
entity must be completely wrong!" Therefore, said entities are more
likely to be very scrupulous in getting their facts correct (I'll write
that again, really s-l-o-w-l-y, getting the facts correct). You may
disagree with how the facts are assembled or the conclusions and
opinions derived therefrom, however, the basic facts are correct.
Contrast that with the NYT that has an affirmed agenda, an owner that is
vocal regarding that agenda, and has been caught red-handed falsifying
*facts* (not opinions, facts). In addition, the entities you deride
make no pretense about providing commentary and opinion, the NYT on the
other hand, even in the sections apart from the editorial page, while
claiming journalistic objectivity, cannot resisting interjecting
editorial opinion, even in its "news" articles.
Jason Blair was not a lying conservative. Pinch Solzberger (sp?) is
not a conservative, editor Raines was neither conservative nor
objective. Yet somehow it is the conservatives who are liers?
Whatever, go do whatever it is you leftists do with yourselves.
... and the education bill is corporate welfare how?
The steel tariffs were supported by unions, last I looked, unions were
closer to socialism and communism than corporations.
The medicare bill, Oh yeah, Teddy was in full rant mode the other day
saying how it was a corporate welfare and how the eeevil HMO's were
going to benefit. Homework assignment for you, who wrote and sponsored
the legislation enabling the creation of HMO's? That aside, the
Medicare bill is another step toward socialized medicine pure and
simple. I realize you socialists would have liked it better had the
government been the sole source and fountain of the funding and
No, I was thinking more of Travelgate, Filegate, Chinagate, etc., and all
the lying and perjury, subornation of perjury, abuse of power, stonewalling,
associates fleeing the country to avoid indictment or prosecution . . . that
sort of thing.
What Bubba did with his cigars is of little interest except to his
supporters, who want to keep reciting the mantra, "It was all just about
I see your point. What I don't see is why Ken Lay isn't in prison.
What I feel is that the Bush administration is the biggest helper of
white collar crime in the history of the United States, and *that*
should be an impeachable offense.
white collar crime in the history of the United States, and *that* should
be an impeachable offense. <
Virtually ALL of the corporate crime being uncovered (Enron, Worldcom,
Global Crossing, Tyco) occured under the Inspector Clouseau-like Clinton
administration. Just what connection, other than a Holiday card exchange,
can be attributed to the Bush II administration? That's right NONE! More
leftist hypocrisy that's completely transparent.
How about Clinton's Mark Rich "pardon for cash" as an example of corruption
par-excellence, eh, lefty? You people are not only shallow, you have the
memories of a gnat.
Massive connections between the Bush
campaign and Enron management. More
than a few ex-Enron execs now in the Bush
admin (eg., Thomas White, Hal Lindsey,
Refusal to intervene when it became obvious
that Enron and others like them (eg Williams
Energy) were manipulating energy transmission
patterns with the express purpose of bilking
the state of California. Most of this took place
during shrub's term.
Refusal to enforce meaningful punishment from
these same companies when the scam was
Massive connections between Dick Cheney
and a major league defense contractor, named
Halliburton -- which, after being given no-bid
contracts to "rebuild" Iraq, proceeded to
overcharge the US government for gasoline
"imported" into Iraq. Similar shady dealings
with Bechtel, Fluor, and a host of other major
"oil patch" industries who collectiveley gave
many millions to the the Bush campaign, and
indeed to previous republican administrations
dating back to Reagan's term or beyond.
Connections between Richard Perle -- senior
level Pentagon advisor -- and Global Crossing,
and his attempts to influence US telecom contracts
in China. (An incident which led to Perle's resignation/
dismissal as the head of the Defense Advisory board.)
Connections between Perle and certain Arab
millionaires, to sell shares and interests in Perle's
Paul Wolfowitz, Perle's neocon sidekick, sits
on the board of directors of Northrop Grumman,
another major defense contractor.
Michael Powell, (Colin's son) as head of the FCC,
attempting to concentrate control of US media into
ever-fewer hands -- for which he was slapped down
by congress (though a "39% compromise" is now
Bush's cabinet is stuffed with corporate lobbyists
who are on record expressing outright hostility to the
basic mission of the agencies they head -- eg. Gail
Norton, Spencer Abraham, et. al.
On matters affecting the environment or the quality
of our air or water, count on bush and his admin to
favor polluters and exploiters at every opportunity.
On matters of worker's rights or workplace safety,
count on the bushies to favor the employers every
time. On matters of tax policy, count on the bushies
to favor the wealthy, every time. On matters of
civil rights, count on the bushies to favor secrecy
and executive power every time.
The list goes on and on. These people have
no shame. And right wingers seem to think it's
all just fine, or are ignorant of what their hero is
ALL of which is leftist, paranoid, "We gotta paint the other side as crooks
so people don't realize WE'RE the real thieves", guilt-by-association
In three years there's not been one corruption scandal related to the Bush
administration. In a like period Clinton's cabinet was rife with lawsuits,
resignations and gross corruption abounded. They couldn't wait to try &
blame their own cronyism on Bush, yet the public knows better. Face facts,
the leftists are the most corrupt movement in history, and lie through their
teeth with every breath.
And why would there be? Who wants to be detained indefinitely without
access to attorneys because you've done something the administration
doesn't like? It's funny when Rumsfeld waxes malevolent about "Saddam's
death squads"--somebody should ask him about the U.S.'s "detainment
squads". Does anybody really believe the U.S. government isn't
currently committing war crimes?
Look it up yourself, you lazy ass.
Facts are mostly wasted on the likes of you.
If it aint spoon fed to you from Rush or
Ann Coulter or Sean Hannity, it can't be
real, I guess.
Liberal media, my ass.
brief moment, you would realize you can't "look up" that which does not
Oh, sure you can, Tom, just check out any of these delusionists favorite
crypto-communist web sites. They've been concocting these ridicu;ous lies
since their best friend Vladdy Lenin taught them how 100 years ago, and even
though their lefist ideology is the most failed in history, they're going to
keep lying until they get it right!
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