History is for the winners to write.
FWIW, before Pearl Harbor, there were other surprise wars. Since I'm
originally Dutch, this example. Although the Dutch were preparing to
defend themselves at traditional defensive settings, the May 10, 1940
attacks were a surprise, not preceded by a declaration of war by Germany.
After 5 days of battle near my home town and elsewhere, and the aerial
destruction of the center of Rotterdam, the Dutch were forced to
surrender. A somewhat smaller scale of the attack by the Japanese on
Pearl Harbor, and a similar defeat of insufficiently prepared and/or
All true, but his post was about a unique American experience, tied
directly to this day. It wasn't about the past injustices around the
world, nor did it downplay any others. Unlike European history,
Americans don't have many, many centuries of conquest, war and
butchery on our own soil. For those that remember the attack on this
anniversary, and for those that are related or know those that were
involved in some way, and for those that sacrificed because of the
events of December 7, 1941, we honor this day.
And with all due respect to you for the gentleman that you are
(sincerely, no kidding around), this would be the same as you starting
a thread on the invasion of Rotterdam and me posting
"hey - that's not an isolated incident. Even though it's May 10th and
special to you guys, you also need to remember Pearl Harbor here in
the USA when you talk about the anniversary of the destruction of
In some ways we do little to honor our vets and military in the USA.
This is one of the days we do.
Sorry, there was absolutely no intention to not pay homage to those who
perished and to all the brave men and women who fought that day and all
days following. Please note that my gratitude to all those who fought
fascism is extreme. After all, if the US and its allies wouldn't have
defeated Germany, I wouldn't be around now, and even more of my family
would have perished in the camps.
I do honor this day as well, and I should point out that there has been
alot of savage wars fought right here in the US. The civil war was
nothing but brutal for those who fought in it, and the wars against
others on this continent were also less than gentle! I just wanted to
point out that a surprise attack was really not so exceptional in the
early 40's, and that rhetoric (FDR Is one of my favorites!) seems to have
obscured the fact (IMNSHO) that US naval commanders were too complacent.
That does not diminish the heroism of the men on the Arizona and other
ships and US planes in the least.
I "grok" that, and submit my apologies if my words offended anyone. That
was certainly not the intent.
And, Robert, I honor them today and every day as well. I just didn't
hang out my flag today as I did on Veterans Day.
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