OT - US House Passes Anti-Spam Bill

Death is a problem ... so being alive is part of the problem?

... thank gawd!

Despite all attempts to the contrary, the final solution to the SPAM problem will be a TECHNOLOGICAL solution, NOT a legislative solution.

I said it ... you read it here.

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Swingman
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You may be right but they haven't worked so far. Just like the filters you're using now. Something more needs to be done, whether its a combination of law and technology or whatever - so long as it works better than what we have. And to those that say this overrides the state laws, I have to ask, just how effective were they in reality?

And to address you're analogy...you're not dead yet, so it's not the problem!

Reply to
Bob S.

Actually, it will take a combination of laws and technological advances ... after all, you gotta give the spammers "due process" before you can publicly execute them.

I've never had much faith in filters, but this guy does wonders with them:

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these ideas in AI, with advances in tcp/ip technology (ipvX), and we will eventually make it tough to continue the practice by taking the profit out of it.

BTW, the older I get, the more staying alive _is_ a problem. ;>)

Reply to
Swingman

I can agree to that but its been far to many years since I've written any "killer assembly code", so maybe aggravating the local / national legislators will be my only contribution (other than bitching here of course...)

Interesting site - worth a read.

Thanks,

Bob S.

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Bob S.

I guess I don't understand everybody's fuss over spam, Bob.

I don't see any spam email...just like I don't see any spam in this group.

Its all in the filters.

Wishing you and yours a happy Thanksgiving season...

Trent

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Trent©

Filters, Charlie.

Wishing you and yours a happy Thanksgiving season...

Trent

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Trent©

Now think about all the bandwidth and disk space every ISP has to have that could be halved if spam went away.

Just because you (and I) seldom see it doesn't mean it isn't a problem.

Reply to
Larry Blanchard

I don't remember everything from my law classes...but don't the states have jurisdiction in intrastate transactions?

Wishing you and yours a happy Thanksgiving season...

Trent

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Trent©

There's a LOT of problems in the world, Larry. I can't solve them all...nor am I concerned with them all.

And, obviously...disk space and bandwidth is not a major problem for them, either.

And...DEFINE spam! That's one of the big problems. Spam SELLS!...that's why its still out there. Its been out there for YEARS. Do you think it'd still be out there if it wasn't profitable?

I've purchased several things...that I was made aware of because of 'spam'.

Do you want to stop unsolicited snail mail, too?

Deal with the problem...on your end. Let the ISP's take care of their own problems.

Wishing you and yours a happy Thanksgiving season...

Trent

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Trent©

your thinking along the right lines here charlie. RR gives me several email boxes. all the spam goes to the primary address. i use a secondary box for myself and yet another secondary for SWMBO. We never ever check the primary box. i only get maybe 3-5 pieces of spam a week. i also NEVER use my real name or email on usenet.if i need to post an address here i use a hot mail address with spam filter on it.been doing this for over a year now and it seems to be working good. before i would use all the correct info i was getting 100 + junk mails a day. when your primary box fills up the spam gets kicked back and eventually you are removed from the list and termed to be INACTIVE. works fer me. skeez

Reply to
skeezics

Not since President Linconln they don't.

Reply to
Silvan

The proverbial "It depends" applies.

If the Feds can find an excuse to invoke the Commerce Clause of the Constitution -- and they _have_ stretched it to include covering strictly 'in-state' transactions that "might affect" interstate commerce, "because there are similar inter-state transactions" -- the primacy of Federal law can be asserted.

Whether or not that is a 'justified' exercise of Federal jurisdiction *is* hotly debated in some circles. In the 'real world', it doesn't matter how that debate comes out, because the courts _have_, *repeatedly*, upheld that rationale for Federal 'meddling'.

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Robert Bonomi

The real key to ending spam is PROFIT. Put a federal tax on all email, even stuff that originates outside the US. Exempt a reasonable amout of messages per month, say 50 or even 1000. Make the sender pay it. For overseas stuff block all email from countries that refuse to pay up. SPAM is almost free to send, but it puts a large strain on resources, so make the spammers pay.

George in Maine snipped-for-privacy@ctel.net

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GeorgeInMaine

George in Maine states:

How long do you think it would take spammers to beat the limits? 30 seconds?

45?

Charlie Self

"Say what you will about the ten commandments, you must always come back to the pleasant fact that there are only ten of them." H. L. Mencken

Reply to
Charlie Self

I also have Road Runner.

I never use the primary address on the web. Not only is it my actual name but it's the 'administrator' account.

I have my web site and it's mail accounts I use for allot of online activity. It has a true killfile and a spam killer. And I get very little garbage.

Reply to
Mark

Great ideas!

Now...how would you administer any of this? lol

Wishing you and yours a happy Thanksgiving season...

Trent

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Trent©

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