Didn't someone high up in this administration say
"We know they had weapons of mass destruction
because we gave them to them." (the "we" was not
the current administration)
As I recall, we backed ( read: provided weaponry,
spare parts and "technical assistance) Saddam during
the Iraq/Iran war, which went on for almost a decade
and cost both sides hundreds of thousands of casualties.
What truly amazes me is that the people of most
of the countries where we "assisted" the military
dictator "fight communism" can distinguish between
an individual United States citizen and the US
government policies that caused them so much
grief. They may dislike an individual "American"
but not for merely being an "American" but
rather because of the individuals behavior, not
just something to think about.
ps - if you're curious about our track record in
"Latin America" do a Google search with
the key words "United Fruit" + Dulles
(there were two Dulles men in influential
US government position - one the
Secretary of State and his brother was
the Director of the Central Intelligence
Agency. Both were major share holders
of United Fruit stock and John Foster
Dulles was the United Fruit lawyer
who "negotiated" most of United Fruit's
land and business contracts for a good
chunk of the airable (sp?) land through
out Latin America.
More than that, we also sent the US Navy into the Gulf and
fought directly against Iranian forces to protect Iraqi and
Kuwaiti shipping. As later events showed, the Kuwaiti shipping
was the more important to us.
American sailors died in that war, killed by the friendly
fire of our ally, Iraq. One has to wonder how that Iraqi
pilot mistook a US destroyer for an Iranian speedboat.
Mon, Jul 12, 2004, 9:37pm (EDT-3) email@example.com
<SNIP> I, and others, doubted the administration.
ROTFLMAO I never stopped doubting this administration. And, the
one before it. And, the one before that. Right on down the line. I
never cast a vote for Slick Willy, and I'm not gong to for Kerry.
We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
- Nanny Ogg
Saw a bumpersticker the other week - don't know if it's just a local
thing or spread across the US:
No Bush, No Dick"
Glad I didn't have to 'splain it to my pre-schooler - but I still got a
chuckle out of it.
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
Gotta find me one o' them thar stickers. I've had enuf of those two
jerkoffs (er, that was willy, too, but i guess some one else did the
jerkin...), what with all their defending us against them camel
jockeys what ain't got no camels.
Regarding those in this thread who've defended the pres. because he
received faulty information: the fact is he didn't listen to those
who contradicted or questioned the CIA, and there were many, many
people in positions to know who stated their reservations. He didn't
want to hear the alternatives, he wanted to go to war. (After all,
that Saddam "tried to kill [his] daddy" dontja know.)
I liked what Garrison Keillor said the other day: "These are pretty
good times for the president. He's the star of a major motion
Let's go to the movies.
Dan (I can...but I don't want to.)
Ideology is the real weapon, but I think it's beyond Larry's comprehension.
He does not realize that his unyielding hatred of his government - president
and congress - is the equivalent of a WMD, because it indiscriminately
destroys any good efforts and offices and minimizes the sacrifice of so many
who acted in good conscience and obedience to their oath.
Russians say "posle boksa kulakami ne mashut" - one does not make
fisticuffs after a boxing match. Now is the time for construction, not
destruction of the result of so much treasure and blood.
You may find a place where time and space intersect and the past is the present
is the future.
You realize by your reasoning you can build a mansion with a single 2x4? Because
by your reasoning once something is used it's still there to be used again?
And your point is? Even Bush is bright enough to not try classifying low
enriched and depleted uranium, plus natural ores, as weapons grade material.
"Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others." Ambrose
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:20:54 -0400, "Kevin Singleton"
thing is, a lot of what was removed was medical supplies. great. now
not only do they have a godawfull number of seriously injured people,
but x ray and mri technology have been pulled out from under them.
Well now, all that proves is that he had the means to make nuke
weapons. Oh, and the materials. Er, and the knowledge, and
also that motivation. But he's better at hiding his nasties
than we are at finding 'em, so, er, it's allright that he
has (wups, had) all that stuff then.
OK, I'll admit, I'm not very good at playing the "all of this
bad stuff doesn't matter" side of things, am I.
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