seems the courts in Oklahoma don't like the idea of not being bothered at dinner time with a dozen calls asking if i need new siding on my brick house, or if i would be interested in buying a timeshare in bora bora. . .
i added my name to the FTC's no call list, in the slim hope that maybe, just maybe,,,it might cut the calls in half...now it seems as that wont happen.
guess them telelmarketers paid enough to get decent justice for themselves
thank you for letting me vent! lol
Traves
congress is in the process of voting the ftc this particular action, so the court case will be overturned by an explicit law. as the head congress-critter put it: '53 million people can't be wrong'.
regards, charlie cave creek, az
We've had one for years in CT, with GREAT results.
It'll survive.
Remember, NEVER buy anything from a telemarketer or a spammer.
Barry
The one in Texas works - rarely get a telemarketing call since joining up a year or so ago. Now if they could do the same thing with Junk Faxes ....
Already done in the House.
I think they just cut their noses off to spite their faces. Seems to me if the don't call list says not to call a certain number, it would be a waste of time to call anyway as they don't want to hear from you. A don't call list would weed out the people that are not going to buy.
just write 'read 47 USC 227(a)(2)(b)' on the front of it and fax it back. that's the law that states you can sue for $500 for each occurrence, and treble damages if it turns out they fax it to you twice.
regards, charlie cave creek, az
I heard on the radio that there are approximately 50 million households on the list. I also heard the telemarketers claim that this will put "millions" of telemarketers out of work.
Personally I find it hard to make those two numbers match. Even if we assume that "millions" means 2 million, that means that each telemarketer subsists on calling only 25 people.
Second, since there are somewhere between one and two hundred million households in the US, that implies that there are a minumum of eight million people who make their living doing telemarketing. That is a problem right there.
I guess the lesson is to not believe the telemarking association. Of course we all know this already...
-Jack
You don't have to be smart to be a telemarketer.
Tim Douglass
You and fifty million other people, so far.
That's nearly 1/3 of _all_ residential phones in the entire country.
That's a pool of voters of a size that Congress _will_ take heed of.
Congresscritters _have_ already promised *immediate* action, if needed.
The FTC believes the current ruling is wrong, and has asked the judge to delay his ruling, while appealed.
The entire tempest will be over in a week or so. with the list *intact*. Implementation date might be delayed by a week, but that's the "worst case" scenario.
Robert Bonomi responds:
You'er probably right. Then, within 3 weeks, ALL the telemarketers, instead of just most as now, will have Indian accents as the business goes offshore.
Charlie Self
"Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft." Theodore Roosevelt
I think that in their own arrogant way that they are saying if they loose their jobs selling products, the manufacturers of those products would be incapable of surviving and have to lay of millions...
Likewise here in Indiana. I'm delighted with the results: three telemarketing calls so far this *year*. We used to get that many just during supper.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
It won't work anyway.
Oh how I could rant about how much I hate phone spam. Especially MCI.
I had one MCI guy who wouldn't take no for an answer. I hung up on him politely. He called back. I hung up on him rudely. He called back. I slammed the phone down. He called back. I just lifted it and slammed it down without even answering. Five more times before that asshole finally got the point.
We just got cell phones with quite a few minutes, and had the home line disconnected. The law against telemarketers calling cell phones is quite old and seems to be very well understood. The only call I've gotten so far was my satellite company, and they stopped that real quick when I told them to.
--randy
Doesn't matter. Off-shore calls _into_ the U.S. are _expressly_ covered by the new rules. An advantage that the FTC has over the FCC.
Note: As of the close of business today, Thursday, both houses of congress had passed, and sent to the President for signature, legislation to correct the 'defect' that the OK court claimed to have found.
Yeah, there'd be no more replacement windows, vinyl siding, credit cards, or long distance companies, and the entire economy would collapse into ruin within hours.
Hell, the best deterent for telemarketers is caller ID, if it's "unavailable" or "out of area", so am I. If it's something important, I have an answering machine and they can leave a message. I absolutely will not answer the phone if the name or number is not displayed.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:24:37 -0400, Silvan pixelated:
Ask to speak to his supervisor. Give them the earful and tell them to remove your name (or suppress it) from their call lists.
-- Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ---- --Unknown
Right...
Has anyone actually collected under this law?
Barry
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