I guess that could be true as your warped little mind sees it. I don't
recall you ever making any points other than innuendo and ad hominem
attack, as exhibited above. The few times you actually address an issue
or statement made by Tim, you simply show how sensible his argument. You
are not alone either, but you are probably the worst offender.
Personally, I don't mind personal attacks much, but something of
substance should be said besides "you're a grandstanding liar with a
delusional belief in you own grandeur"
Standing alone or in a crowd, your comments are pretty much just attacks
against the man, as exhibited above. No substance at all.
Criticism of you stands alone. You make few arguments. In fact, about
all you do is make Tim and others you argue with look good.
Criticism of my comments has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Considering that your posts are generally nothing more than ad hominem
attacks against Tim, or whomever else you might reply against, then it
could be reasonably assumed criticism of your comments are either
support for Tim, or, pleas from his detractors to shut up as you make it
too easy for Tim.
Nope, you do it with most everyone that disagrees with you. Personal
attacks with little or no reflection on the argument presented.
You mean when you say "you're a grandstanding liar with a delusional
belief in you own grandeur" thats not an ad hominem attack? Perhaps you
think by saying "it's no longer necessary to argue pertinent points"
you have a free card to do nothing other than make personal attacks?
That's not how it works, you look even worse when you make lame excuses
for having no argument. You would be better off sitting on your hands.
I'm rather certain "most everybody" sees Tim as a principled man that
puts forth well written, reasonable arguments, even if they disagree
with him. Those such as you that can't address his arguments with much
more than personal attacks clearly show you have no other reasonable
recourse. In other words, it is you that look like the clown.
Poking is easy, making a reasonable argument rather than simply a
personal attack and nothing else is less so.
Not in the same pew, not in the same church, not even in the same country.
All your comments *may* be true, but you've missed one important key
concept. As well as engaging in useless bantering with Tim, I attempt to
make helpful suggestions for other woodworkers, experience permitting. Even
currently while taking pokes at Tim, I still contribute as can to the
woodworking aspect of this newsgroop. Fell free to verify my claim.
Tim, on the other hand does not. As far back as I can see, no woodworking
comments. He immerses himself in some off topic conversation and offers
*zero* information about woodworking. He doesn't offer suggestions, he
doesn't offer links to woodworking, he contributes absolutely nothing to the
topic of conversation.
If he's not here (even partly) to contribute to woodworking, then he's here
solely to troll. And that being said, I'll continue to a will, attack him,
his character and any other facet of his delusional life that I see fit.
...and the smears coming from your side? Because you want to lose?
Your idea of winning is fomenting chants of "Kill HIM" during either
one of your candidate's rallies without either candidate saying a word
I think the reason Republicans are so afraid they'll lose, is because
of possible investigations which may follow re war crimes, voter fraud
I think the ones who want/need to win are you guys....and it ain't
because it is 'country first'.
Clue: High probability it was a plant from the opposition to get just the
reaction you provided. Proof? No more proof than you have that it was a
McCain supporter. However, this is a very anomalous incident -- nice to
see you are on board with the main stream media meme though, it shows you
absorb propaganda very well.
You are amazingly funny in a deviously twisted and deficient way. Ever
heard of ACORN? hint: That "R" in "ACORN" doesn't stand for "Republican".
Yeah, vote fraud exists, but it's not the Republicans committing it.
As far as the other part -- investigations, prosecutions -- that has
certainly been posited by the democrats should gain power. Positively
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
Even worse....it was either the over active imagination or a outright
invention/lie from the original reporter. The numerous on the scene secret
service agents whom respond to "kill chants" very seriously did not hear it
nor did anyone else that was interviewed. When certain large segments of the
media forgo any semblance of ethical standards in support of electing their
guy ....many so called news stories are simply bunk. Rod
FINALLY a compliment. I can't believe it! Mark 'gets it!'
The Wreck is a wonderful source of relevant woodworking information...
AND a lot of fun.
So many here are so serious! It is impossible to resist the incredible
beauty of Tim chowing down on a lure and then tailwalking the
shimmering lake towards the horizon, dragging a few thousand feet of
12 pound test behind him.
Much more colorful than my vision of an angry/impatient guy sitting at
his keyboard in Des Plaines taking it out on all the "unworthies"
because John Galt hasn't (yet) invited him to Happy Valley in the
I am arguing no such thing. The so-called "conservatives" today are
just about as guilty as the the liberals of this kind of thing, simply
in other matters, as you point out. They only thing that redeems them
at all is at least they still argue for the protection of the
individual's money (however poorly their policies actually end up
doing that), whereas - as best as I can tell - the current crop of
liberals protects *nothing* of the individual's from the predations of
the state/collective. Well ... that's not quite true. Liberals love to
protect the imagined rights of foreign invaders, illegal aliens, and
almost anyone *not* a legitimate US citizen or resident.
It used to be you could count on the liberals to defend civil
liberties and the conservatives to work to limit the power and size of
government. Both have sold us out completely in this regard.
Tim Daneliuk firstname.lastname@example.org
That Palin has no close ties with any such a group is quite beside the point
as the claim is simply part of the organized bash Palin campaign.....But
your political views are so predictable that your hair was standing up long
before you ever heard her name. Confusing reasoned thought with personal
political preference might make you feel better but its a little transparent
from here. Rod
You are saying Todd never belonged to a secessionist group?
After listening to Palin lie and dodge, or attempt to, through
interviews and a debate, my hair stood on end. I was looking for
information, and got plenty, none of it anywhere close to favorable to
her. If you feel otherwise, then that's your privilige.
Your denigration of my tinking abilities goes far to proving that
you're basically an asswipe without much, or any, acceptance of other
Your stance on Mt. Olympus is a shade shaky, Zeus.
Actually Yes.......not that it actually matters since he's not running for
anything but he was registered with the Alaska Independence party.... one of
13000 or so members including former Alaska Gov. Walter Hickel. The party
while possibly quirky has never had a secessionist plank in their platform.
The founder may have and certainly some members have wanted to secede but
the concept has no significant following in Alaska. For the most part their
platform is similar in scope and breadth to the Constitution and Libertarian
Incidentally my Internet connection is via a regional ISP of whom the owner
(Doug Palin) is a relative of Todd Palin, he heartily recommends the Palins
and says (ISP web page) that what you see is what you get and that they are
On another interesting note Palin's stepmother Faye Palin lost in 2002 when
she ran for Mayor in Wasilla to succeed Sarah. Faye Palin, who is pro
choice and a Democrat lost to the candidate endorsed by Sarah Palin....
Thanksgiving must have been interesting that year.
Thanks for your permission.....for my own ignorance which lie in particular
bothered you the most? I'll readily concede dodges although only on the
caveat that all politicians do.
I don't think I denigrated your "tinking" abilities<G>...I merely suggested
they were quite predictable. Probably based on the simple truth that every
political post I've ever seen you opine over is a left leaning talking
point. If I missed your right leaning talking point posts my apologies.
Yet you are perfectly happy to support a community activist who has gone
to great lengths to hide his past, has had to repeatedly repudiate his
former alliances (ayers, wright, rezko, etc.). Someone who lied repeatedly
about his work to defeat a bill to prevent infanticide, has lied regarding
his stance on gun control, has won most of his elections not by defeating
his opponents but by getting them disqualified, has supporters in MO
threatening legal action against those who advertise in opposition to him,
and has had his supporters flood radio stations to try to shut down
opposition views. Stalinist tactics don't make your hair stand up but
somehow something Palin said (have no idea what) did? Enjoy the
collectivist hell you are about to unleash on us.
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:48:34 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Isn't English a wonderful language? Someone on the other side of that
issue might have said "his work to defend legal and safe abortions instead
of coat hangers" to describe the very same actions :-).
It seems there's red English and blue English.
Not to mention real English from across the pond :-).
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