It doesn't go away by itself.
Watergate "went away" when Richard Nixon resigned the presidency in
disgrace and left town never to be heard from in an official capacity
The Bush presidency is thankfully over...but the damage he and Dick
Cheney did continues to press on the nerve of the American people like
an impacted wisdom tooth. And until the questions surrounding arguably
the most arrogant and perhaps most corrupt administration in our
history are addressed, the pain won't go away.
From Nancy ("Impeachment is off the table") Pelosi to President Barack
("I want to look forward, not backward") Obama, the country is being
poorly served by their Democratic government. And on this subject
President Obama is dead wrong.
George W. Bush and his accomplices damaged this country like it's
never been damaged before. And it's not just the phony war in Iraq or
the torture memos that justified waterboarding. It's millions of
missing emails and the constant use of executive privilege and signing
It's the secretive meetings with Enron and other energy executives and
the wholesale firing of federal prosecutors. It's trying to get the
president's personal attorney seated on the Supreme Court and that
despicable Alberto Gonzales sitting in front of congressional
investigators whining, "I don't remember, I don't know, I...etc."
It's the domestic eavesdropping in violation of the FISA Court, the
rendition prisons, and the lying. It's looking the other way while the
City of New Orleans drowned and its people were left to fend for
It's the violations of the Geneva Conventions, the soiling of our
international reputation and the shredding of the U.S. Constitution.
It's the handing over of $700 billion to the Wall Street fat cats last
fall, no questions asked. Where is that money? What was it used for?
It's the no-bid contracts to firms like Halliburton and Blackwater and
the shoddy construction and lack of oversight of reconstruction in
Iraq that cost American taxpayers untold billions.
If the Republicans were serious about restoring their reputation, they
would join the call for a special prosecutor to be appointed so that
at long last justice can be done.
It's too late for George W. Bush to resign the presidency. But it's
not too late to put the people responsible for this national disgrace
=======I happen to agree with Jack Cafferty on this. A cleansing would be
nice. Get that much admired integrity back, and as it seems too scary
for Obama to do it, it will be left up to the people. Then kick his
ass out if he keeps criminally sheltering the evil-doers from the
That's why I always wince a little bit when someone bashes the
Canadian health care system. Especially when there aren't any Canadian
politicians running on the "We gotta fix our health care system"
What WILL be constructive is to send the message that when something
is illegal, it IS illegal regardless of whether you're the President
Thousands died based on lies. Torture. On and on.. and NOBODY is
A cleansing is in order.
Rob is a shit stirrer, no question about it - but it's worth noticing
that he seems to expect us to live up to our own highest standards, and
he's inclined to wax impatient when he perceives that we've forgotten
what those are, or when he thinks we've become too lazy or too "busy" to
do more than pay lip service to our principles.
I've found that even when I don't agree with what he says, it's worth at
least asking: "What would lead him to say /that/?"
I suspect that "constructive" is a fairly subjective catagorization, and
that a gentle general discussion is an iffy proposition in a large forum
with a multitude of (sometimes very strong) opinions and very different
life experiences. If I had to choose one over the other, I think I'd go
FWIW, I think robatoy /was/ trying to be constructive, but if you see it
differently why not ask him (directly) where he's coming from? You might
also find it interesting to ask to what extent he considers himself a
stakeholder in the conduct of US politics...
Sometimes, it's not just the message that matters, but the messenger too. I
am proud to be a citizen of the US of A. We are not a perfect people, but we
do have a system which provides for self-correction.
Analogy: You have a 10-year old son who got into some trouble with some of
his friends; and some vandalism was perpatrated and the guity were delivered
home by the local constable. Would you appreciate an otherwise uninvolved
neighbor who interjected himself into the situation to dictate exactly what
punishment should be meated out for your boy?
A neighbor is entitled to his opinion but he would be well served to tread
lightly on internal family issues if he hopes to be invited to the next
What you missed by not asking the questions is that this neighbor was
directly affected by the "vandalism".
I agree that it's a good think to love your kid, but I also believe that
it's wise to do that with your eyes wide open and your discretion fully
I think it's fair to assume that Rob was not directly affected by:
"Alberto Gonzales sitting in front of congressional
investigators whining, "I don't remember, I don't know"
"domestic eavesdropping in violation of the FISA Court"
"[Bush Admin]looking the other way while the
City of New Orleans drowned and its people were left to fend for
"no-bid contracts to firms like Halliburton and Blackwater "
"Iraq that cost American taxpayers untold billions"
These are legitimate issues for the US to work though (via courts,
legislation and periodic elections). We voted in a new administration and
they are working to solve many of those issues... like reworking the
pentagon procurement process, extracting our troops from Iraq ... Oh and
Alberto did not make it onto the supreme court. The system actually works
most of the time albeit slowly.
Most, but admittedly not all of what was cited in the OP were internal
When Jack cafferty (the author) writes those words, he is using a bit of
hyperbole for effect. When non-citizens use that inflammatory tone its
The messenger matters.
A quick drive by here on my part as I am off to the hospital once more
to be the advocate for my aged father against Medicare/Medicaid and
the hospital system. My mom can't do it because she is starting to
have signs of Alzheimer's.
I am sure this topic and the usual self righteous politicos here will
beat this thread to death while swinging the sword of their version of
Probably a little name calling along the way.
Accusations of fealty will be made.
Questions of intelligence concerning other posters that don't agree
with ones that KNOW they are "the light..." they are "the way" will
Credentials of posters will be questioned.
Sources of information will be questioned and then approved by some,
then dismissed out of hand by others.
All the normal guys that post little concerning woodworking will be
here in force, since it is likely this may be the only venue they can
express their political views with such gusto without someone telling
them to shut up.
In the end, if the goal is achieved, There will be a large foamy pile
of pointless blather describing how screwed up the USA is, and who the
fault lies with.... at least in this thread.
Can't you guys just copy and paste your old responses? Wouldn't it
save time? Isn't this horse (and its variants) dead enough for a
Exercising my right to free speech as a tax paying American citizen,
this just makes me tired.
I don't know what the point is to it.
Just to stir some shit, per usual.
Sorry to hear about your folks. Spent Mother's Day with Mom half
remembering that she had kids, then struggling with which ones of those
present were hers.
The lucid moments were worth it, but they are getting farther and
farther apart. All the best to both your mother and father, and you two,
He's just trying to beat LRod's record but he don't have a shot.
Being Canuckistani, he don't know how to fish for bottom feeders.
His stinkbait recipe ain't nearly stinky enough.
He'll snag some suckers but the real stuck-way-down-in-the-mud
shovelmouths will just wait for a real meal.
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