No argument with that, other than "many of their constituents recognize
as rampaging socialism." "Rampaging socialism" is easy to recognize, no
need to convince anyone with half a brain... it is what it is...
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Since these are the same people who are convinced the govt. wants to set up
death panels to decide when everyone will be allowed to die, and give away
free health care to illegal aliens (the clear language of the bill
notwithstanding) and for that matter that President Obama's birth
certificate is a forgery, I'm not too concerned with what they believe.
Anyone who shows up at a town hall meeting to screech that they don't want
the govt. getting involved with their Medicare is frankly too dumb to be
taken seriously. It saddens me that the Republican Party has been reduced
to appealing to the fears of ill-informed yahoos, but that's what it has
Look, the only way to save the amount of money being touted by the
proponents of these bills is going to be to ration care. You can't get
that amount from cutting "waste and fraud" from Medicare -- why can't they
do that now? You can't save money by bringing in 30 Million (47 million?,
27 million? What's the number this week?) more people and still provide
the same services. Tom Dashcle was promoting a panel to design and develop
a list of approved protocols for treatment and who should receive that
treatment in order to make cost-effective decisions. This approach has
been included in the porkulus bill. You can call these what you want, but
the fact that government bureaucrats are going to decide what treatments
should be covered and at what ages on should just give them "a pain
pill" -- that's Obama's exact words, equates to someone determining who is
going to live and who is going to die. Once government takes over health
care, you are no longer a citizen, you are a line item in the budget. Call
it radical right wing hysteria, call it eeevil conservatives thwarting the
black president, the fact is that it is the government regulating what
care, when, and how you will receive it. You are no longer an independent
citizen, you are not dependent upon the government.
Umm, no the language is not clear. While it does say illegals aren't
eligible, there is no enforcement mechanism to ensure that. When
representatives tried to get enforcement amendments added to that section
of the bill, they were voted down -- several times.
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Yeah, just like the leftists who complained about Colin Powell's and Condi
Rice's support of the Iraq kerfluffel. Those who criticized were nothing but
a bunch of dirt-bag racists who looked only at color of the proponents and
not at the merits of the plan.
Powell pulled his support as soon as he discovered he'd been lied to.
I tend to believe Rice had the hots for Georgie Boy...check out any
photo or video of thems tanding close together and watch her moon
Another alternate-universe person
"I'm well aware of the role I played. My role has been very, very
straightforward. I wanted to avoid a war. The president agreed with me. We
tried to do that. We couldn't get it through the U.N. and when the president
made the decision, I supported that decision. And I've never blinked from
that. I've never said I didn't support a decision to go to war." Colin
Powell, interview with CNN, Oct 19, 2008.
As for Condi Rice and George Bush, at least Laura didn't have to intercede,
as did Michelle Obama recently when some blonde kept rubbing up against her
husband. I believe her exact words were: "Chris Matthews! Back off!"
wrote: More bullshit. Just like he does on:
With all of these playgrounds open to you, do you really need to
peddle more of your bullshit on the wreck?
Makes little difference if someone posts in one conference, or in a
thousand conferences. All that matters is what he says in the group we
are reading... What on earth does this nonsense have to do with
anything, other than you have way too much time on your hands stocking
what HeyBub does with his time. If you think for a second this makes
anything he says here more, or less bullshit, you have a screw that
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Yeah, it does make a difference, a big difference. When you cross post
to a dozen different newsgroups, then there's a much greater chance of
attracting crude and off topic replies from all the flakes that are
particular to any given newsgroup.
Figured you were a little smarter than that. However, considering that
YOU are one of those flakes, what I've said is obviously true.
Now you can reply with your run of the mill blast of profanity and
crescendo of attack rhetoric. After all, it's all you know how to do
online, especially so considering the newgroups you inhabit.
Because when they reply, it gets cross posted here. I can guess with
relative certainty that's how people you came to be here and that
includes your lesser clone, Tim Daneliuk.
Flakes like you run around all day trying to get into arguments and
then you freak out when someone sticks it back to you.
Well, if the cross post is relevant to the post, so what?
You can't even get things right when you're not guessing...
Both HeyBub and myself post plenty of on topic stuff in this conference.
I keep all posts for 2 weeks here, and you haven't posted anything
other than off topic, vitriolic attacks. Not one post, not one word.
Now I'm feeling like I've responded to a troll...
I do enjoy arguing with my fellow woodworkers, but not at all with
trolls, and I don't get bit often... if you are a troll, good job.
Got Change: Individualism =======> Socialism!
Did you notice by chance that 'sweetnothing' posts have only been the
past several days? Normally, my woodworking related posts are under a
different alias because of an ISP difficulty. And, they are
woodworking related. But, I don't have to explain myself to you.
I noticed you only posted in this thread in the last 2 weeks, and that
each and every post was a vitriolic attack, some with profanity, making
you an overt hypocrite.
I'm supposed to keep track of your freaking aliases? You're not just an
overt hypocrite, but a pompous overt hypocrite!
But, I don't have to explain myself to you.
You don't have to explain yourself, dispense your vitriolic attacks, use
aliases, or even have to be here. It's all up to you. Besides, nobody
asked you to explain yourself, you chose to do that all by yerself.
Got Change: The Individual ========> The Collective!
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