eWoodShop - Bath Remodel 2014

[Swingman]

Bath remodel to assist client with medically necessary, handicapped access to shower and facilities:

Time was of the essence ... 19 days from start to finish.

[woodchucker]

Nice job.

2 things, did you paint blue before putting tiles up in the bathroom or is that something else?

The shower doors look wrong. Since the shower head is to the left, the outter sliding door should be on the outside to prevent water from going between the 2 panes, it looks like the opening is the inside door.

[Swingman]

Sealant, we call it "Red Gard", although it is sometimes blue.

By design (although not an issue with a properly installed "frameless" shower door). Keep in mind, as stated, the main use for this shower is for the handicapped client who will be using the hand held shower head from the seat opposite the wall mounted shower head. (the "color coordinated" holder for the handheld unit next to the shower seat is on backorder, as well as the handheld supply "elbow", thus not pictured.)

[woodchucker]

k that makes sense.

Is the red gard required by code? I have to do a makeover on my master bath sometime.. been thinking about how I am going to do it.

[Swingman]

Prudent, but not required. At least not around here.

Tile installers have been using "red gard" for a few years, and in some locations where plumbers do not do shower pans, it is often all that is used in lieu of a membrane shower pan.

An example, in a similar, but smaller shower I did in AR last year, where it does happen to be "red" :

I require, and spec both as a rule, as well as a 24 hour leak test, which could also be seen in process in the photos of the subject bath.

All elements of "plumbing", and a shower pan is part of the plumbing system IMO, should require a leak test.

[Leon]

Bravo!

elle'gaugn!

[none]

Good job!

[-MIKE-]

Great work, as usual. Has Schluter systems made it your way, yet? Have you ever used it. I used their Ditra underlayment, Kerdi membrane and Kerdi wall boards for our baths remodel.

[woodchucker]

I saw that and thought it was important too. Thanks for the info. I'll make sure I do all of that when I finally do the bath upgrade.

[G. Ross]

I don't think I could have held it for 19 days.

Good job!

[Swingman]

Yep, Home Depot carries it here, among other places. Mostly online special ordering though, so thus far I have not used it due to logistics and lack of being able to "run to the store" when stuff happens. ;)

[-MIKE-]

I encourage you to check it out and use their whole system next time you get the chance... with availability of course.

Their Kerdi boards are structural, so you can frame up walls and steps/seats, etc with the rigid foam sections that already have the membrane permanently attached. No 2x lumber build-outs, then covering in rubber, then seam tape, etc.

Their seam tape is made of the same membrane and is applied with thin-set, no expensive specialty adhesives. The Kerdi membrane can go over anything. No need for green-board or cement board. It can go right on drywall. But on to-the-studs remodels, you just use their 1/2" Kerdi board instead of drywall/cement board.

Their shower pan systems are also pretty ridiculous. One guy who is experience with the Schluter schtuff (

[Brewster]

I use the Ditra for all my tile jobs over slab since I first tried the product. Best advice is to shop around (on line) since the 'quantity' discount is significant and a lot cheaper than Borg pricing.

-BR

[Swingman]

I saw it at a GHBA seminar a few years back and was intrigued.

Providing I can insure "in stock" availability, and based on your recommendation, I'll definitely consider it on this next bath remodel which is right around the corner.

Be a good time to try it.

Thanks!

[BenignBodger]

I'm doing a to-the-studs rip and replace of a very small en suite bathroom. My first truly complete replacement and it is going a lot slower than 'one long day'. Hell, it took me three days to get out the lead shower pan and complete mud bed floor. I worked very carefully on that so as to not cause any structural damage. I'm finally down to fitting the replacement floor (no mud!) and am using Schluter all the way -- Ditra and Kerdi with the foam pan and bench. There was some pretty nasty stuff going on in the walls and floor of the old shower and I'm looking forward to a truly waterproof system in the next go-round which had better last longer than I do since I'm never going to do this sort of job again.

[-MIKE-]

When I said "one long day," I was talking about a room that was to the studs and subfloor and ready for the Schluter Schtuff to be installed. AND an experienced guy who works with the stuff every day.

When you watch the videos of the guys who demonstrate it, it's amazing how fast and perfect they work.