Wind turbines a complete waste of money

[Bod]

We've all been spun bullshit about how efficient they are.

The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each.

[Chris Hogg]

Nothing new there then. Have you a link to the source of that tasty morsel?

[Bod]

[harryagain]

Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency?

[Bod]

[Bod]

[harryagain]

What has an article a bout the USA (completely different weather /politics) got to do with the UK?

[harryagain]

What has an article about the USA got to do with us?

[harryagain]

You never read that did you? Wind farms are not about creating jobs shit-fer-brains.

[Brian-Gaff]

Not a complete waste of time as everything wears out. However I do think all renewables are based on calculations which cannot be substantiated. IE climate and wind in particular are pretty transient things to base a whole industry on. I am reminded of the speed that old sailing clippers were replaced by steam power once it became an option, as the wind was fickle and it meant many ports had to have reliable trade winds nearby.

Brian

[The Natural Philosopher]

I don't.

[Charlie]

A bit like the real cost of nuclear power then?

[The Natural Philosopher]

well no the real cost of nuclear power can be calculated, and that's why its surrounded by leftislation, because it is inherently pretty cheap, until you add regulations to it, and that just keeps ratcheting the costs up, and then you add activists against it, and that adds yet more costs.

And then you demand that every last radioactive atom is removed from it with a teaspoon, and that adds yet more costs.

And then you demand that those teaspoons be transported in lead lined containers in trucks that will never ever have an accident to a place so far away that not one neutron might ever escape, and that adds more cost.

The sad fact is that our civilisation will collapse, not in a nuclear holocaust, not on a welter of dangerous waste, but in a welter of incompetence, because in the end, democracy has proved but one thing: mots people are too stupid to vote.

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[Tim Streater]

leftislation? Like it.

[Charlie]

Those mots are so inconvenient.

OK now I get it, your real name is Mussolini and I claim my prize.

[harryagain]

Nobody knows the cost of nuclar power because nobody knows how to dispose of the waste. Or if it's even possible.

Nuclear waste disposal is craftily ignored Even storing the waste is a huge cost.

[dennis]

Well tomorrow we will see hoe many are stupid enough to vote UKIP.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well tomorrow we will see how many are stupid enough not to vote UKIP.

[Charlie]

That'll be the vast majority then. Hopefully Farage will then cease to pretend he's one of the mythical lads down the, now closed, local. He's an arrogant, divisive and dangerous establishment prat whatever he pretends to be. Maybe he'll bugger off to golden sunset land and take his intolerant followers with him. Although I would much rather they see how they have been deceived by him and get back to being tolerant citizens of a tolerant United Kingdom.

Charlie.

[Bod]