A few years ago, every village had a hardware/DIY store. Then the sheds
arrived and killed them off. Now the sheds are suffering. I wonder if
there are parallels to be drawn with the problems the major supermarkets
are having. Perhaps there is a place for the small, knowledgeable
Or they have enough of a clue to realise that they are in financial trouble
and that cutting their costs may well allow them to continue to provide
the jobs and that going bust instead would see all those jobs lost.
Consulting the workforce isnt going to see the workforce coming up
with anything better than decent management can come up with.
I personally feel its not diy which is goinout of fashion, its fashion that
dictates people must change all the time just look at the tv shows on
changing the way rooms and whole houses look. Sooner or later folk will
realise its just a way to generate revenue for companies who do this sort of
Its never been so easy to make your own shelves, make custom coloour paint
and even to make your own furniture etc.
I think shops like B/Q have lost their way by the way they package tings.
I have drawers full of old rawl plugs screws bits of hardware not needed for
things I've done yet had to be bought due to the fact they are packaged that
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It is difficult to find an old-fashioned hardware srore selling individual
screws, etc. That's becasue o packet of 10 from B&Q cost far less than
getting the 4 you needed from the local store. Machine counting and
filling bags is so much cheaper
And a box of a hundred from Toolstation is likely to cost about the same
as that 10 from B&Q. ;-)
IMHO, the reason the sheds initially won out over the hardware store was
you could look for what you wanted yourself. And not have to show your
ignorance by asking the hardware shop assistant. But now you can look
stuff up online, you don't need to roam around a shed.
*All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand *
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
Could it just be the closure of local education craft centres
(woodwork/metalwork) and the switch to CDT? Around the early '80's IIRC.
Those and later students will be today's re-furbishing home owners.
I think that is much more about there being far fewer doing DIY just
because far fewer are able to buy a very run down place and turn it
into a very decent place to live than there used to be and what B&Q
has been trying to do to replace that part of their older business that
no longer gets used anything like as much in a hope to stay viable as
Sure, but that has always been that way except in the most
dinosaury operations where you can buy just a one bolt of
the right size etc from bins of them.
No management can do a damned thing about the situation
where the number of people using their stores has dropped
dramatically because far fewer people can afford to buy run
down houses and turn them into decent places to live. The
only thing to do in that situation is to shut the stores that
aren't profitable because there are too many of their stores.
No surprise that you needed a union to even wipe your arse.
Except that, at the same time there is a growing trend for people not to
"diy" but to "get a man in".
As there is still the same amount of consumables being bought B&Q ought to
be able to win the same amount of business here
why do they not achieve this?
(I accept that this trend result in lower sales of tools)
Its certainly true that as real living standards improve
significantly, people have a lot more choices and can
afford to pay someone to do what they aren't confident
of being able to do themselves or prefer to get someone
else to do.
Not when those who are paid to do the work don’t
usually use operations like B&Q for various reasons.
Because the sort of people who do get paid to
do the work don’t get what they need from B&Q.
And yes, all those rented houses clearly have an owner
and the owner will normally be doing more work on
them between tenants than you see with houses that
have the owner living in them. And those landlords
are quite likely to pay someone to do that work just
because that reduces the time taken and so the time
when there is no tenant paying the rent.
But again, the problem for B&Q is that those who
are paid to do that sort of work don’t usually buy
what they need from B&Q for various reasons and
are much more likely to buy what they need from
operations that do aggressive trade discounts etc.
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