New Simple Part P ticket - Cost £ zero (initial fee)

[Lightman]

Dear All

I'm so angry about the stupid "nanny state" electrical regulations that I have the following idea.

I plan to set up a new institute (perhaps I'll call it the "Institute of Electricians" or similar)

I will accept the same City and Guilds examinations as the major bodies (which lets face it are not difficult) and then set a 4 hour practical test which might be at local technical college.

Alternatively I might set exams with limited scope (see below).

The important difference is it wont be a "Trade Union" designed to raise barriers to entry (like the other institutions which are merely trying to protect their own self interest, their members, raise prices and enter into anti-competitive restrictive practices. (ie they don't give a damn about electrical safety or the public).

I have no doubt that these "self interested" Trade Unions are causing more deaths each year by causing competant tradesman (who can multitask or who are competant in lots of trades) to leave the industry or stop doing electrical work.

I plan to have modules of competancy mainly to cover final circuits such as

1. Ring Mains
2. Radial Circuits
3. Lighting Circuits
4. Bathrooms (more difficult)

Therefore, if a wardrobe fitter who only needs to move sockets, they could qualify in option 1 only.

The annual fee would be zero until the body had been accepted by the government to self certify part P. After that it would be say £ 30 per annum A low annual fee is essential to encourage occaisonal electricians (who are perfectly competant) to register for their "ticket". There is no reason to have £ 400 annual fees like some of these bodies.

Who is interested in joining at £ zero to get the ball rolling.

Anybody can join at "membership" level. After qualifying you will be an "associate" and this would allow part P self certification.

I'm looking for 1,000 members to get the ball rolling. The government could not ignore a body with City and Guilds qualifications and a practical exam if it had 1000 members!!!

Please email your name to [e-mail] . I will then add you as a "member" whilst I investigate matters further.

If I get a good response I will push this forward agressively.

Regards - ElectricMan

[Hugo Nebula]

On 22 Apr 2006 15:52:14 -0700, a particular chimpanzee named "Lightman" randomly hit the keyboard and produced:

He wouldn't need to make an application just to move a socket in a bedroom.

[Dave]

Nice idea and prob thousands agree with your sentiment re nanny state. Unfortunately the IEEE is not one of them. Interesting that an institute essentially the trade union organsiation for electrics, is instrumental in support of regs (under Prescott) which has deprived many a good craftsman his right to earn a living. But now of course, all kitchens and bathroom will be much safer and we'll never see a cowboy again.

ps How about Earthing on your list?