Prescott plans a new disaster for house sales Christopher Booker Telegraph

Prescott plans a new disaster for house sales

John Prescott, the man who doesn't pay his council tax, will soon face another major embarrassment. This is the chaos he will unleash by introducing a serious new complication to homebuying, due to cost homeowners £1 billion a year - all because he wishes to disguise his need to obey a Brussels directive.

From June 2007, it will be illegal for anyone to offer a house or flat for sale without paying up to £2,000 for a 100-page "Home Information Pack", prepared by a certified inspector. This "HIP" will contain details of legal and council searches, and a "Home Condition Report", checklisting the kind of details obvious to a fairly rudimentary visual inspection. (Buyers will still need to commission a full structural survey and valuation.)

This is a flimsy cover, however, for the real motive behind Mr Prescott's HIP scheme - his obligation to comply with EC directive

2002/91 requiring every home put on the market to have an "Energy Performance Certificate", based on a formula which measures the size of a property against recent fuel bills.

The more closely surveyors, estate agents and lawyers look into Mr Prescott's scheme, the more horrified they become, not just by its pointlessness, but by the damage it is likely to inflict on the property market. According to his officials, it will require up to

7,500 inspectors, each needing 18 months' training. The latest figure for inspectors in the pipeline is only 1,800, so when the scheme comes into force in 18 months, less than a quarter of the required number will be available.

Nevertheless, anyone caught by trading standards officials selling a home without an HIP will be liable to a summary penalty up to £500. The shortage of inspectors means that, unless Mr Prescott is allowed a postponement from Brussels, delays of months, even years, will be inevitable, creating havoc across the domestic property market. The initial cost of commissioning an HIP will be incurred by the estate agent, to be added to the bill when the property is sold. Although the Government's estimated cost for an "average" property is only £700 including VAT (quite onerous enough for sellers on low incomes), in many cases the cost will be as high as £2,000, and perhaps even more. Few vendors will wish to pay such sums more than once, particularly when the cost of copying a 100-page report for each prospective buyer could be £15 or more. Gone will be the days of offering a home through more than one agent.

One horrified observer of this "disaster waiting to happen" is Philip Collings, formerly the IT director for Railtrack, who has just launched a website

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explaining some of the more glaring flaws in the scheme. He points out that, of the £1 billion a year it will cost to run, the Government will take £87 million in VAT, and that the details of each property will have to be registered on a Government website, making it easier to carry out revaluations for council tax.

But Mr Collings also believes he has spotted a loophole in the scheme, by which homeowners could avoid having to pay for HIPs. Although he is not revealing the details yet, for fear of counter-action by Mr Prescott, he is inviting property owners who are likely to sell within two years to register their interest on his website, so that in due course he can sign them up, for a modest fee, to an arrangement which he believes could save them thousands of pounds and months of hassle

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Ophelia
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Some percentage chance of a £500 penalty vs. a £2000 report - the former seems the better deal..!

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Mike Harrison

the better deal..!

My thoughts exactly... not like trading standards are sitting there twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do anyway is it!

Reply to
John Rumm

I do hope the tide will turn at some point, and we'll see some freedom from this idiotic nannying, and general taking away of our freedoms. People seem so clueless they just accept it.

NT

Reply to
meow2222

From the "Telegraph". That say it all. The Tory party propaganda outlet.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

I do hope the tide will turn at some point, and we'll see some freedom from this idiotic nannying, and general taking away of our freedoms.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

the better deal..!

I thought it was a £5000 fine, and that's what was said on You and Yours when they covered it a few months back.

The £700 report assumes the home inspectors are qualified to carry out all the inspections required, and that was based on the government's assumption that surveyors and others in the building trade would come forward to be trained. That hasn't happened. The inspectors who have come forward to be trained are all from outside the building trade, and have no experience of it. This means they will have to employ multiple specialist inspectors to undertake all the work, which is why the cost is much more likely to be in the thousands, combined with the issue that there are nowhere near as many inspectors trained up as there should have been by now, so they will be in very short supply.

Reply to
Andrew Gabriel

They didn't find this information in a burning Baghdad building did they? ;-)

Reply to
daddyfreddy

Don't worry - it'll probably be a 4 page spread in the Daily Mail tomorrow and then we will ALL know it's gospel.

Reply to
Geoffrey

No, that's 16 Old Queen St. London SW1.

Reply to
Andy Hall

seems the better deal..!

Exactly what I was going to say. £500 flat rate tax on conveyancing round here that'll hardly make much of a percentage difference over the Stamp Duty.

It's bit like the advice to fraudsters about VAT. "If you are seriously in trouble and you are about to be inspected then just burn and wipe all records the, the penalty for non-record keeping is a maximum of £5000."

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Ed Sirett

No, 500 was nearer the mark. I think it is specifically mentioned on one of the ODPM's web documents - look for the bit about who will enforce (Weights and Measures, LBA). 5000 is what you (potentially) pay for failing to notify the BCO (and/or 6 months in gaol learning not to drop the soap).

I'd get a quote but I'm tired and can't be bothered. If you can;t find it, ask in a couple of days and I'll dig it out. Unless it's been changed in the last 5 weeks or so...

I thought exactly the same - 500 fine vs. 500-700 cost!

If you look at the IEE forums which carry a couple of threads on this, it seems certain to date that the HIP won;t include an electrical PIR, just a visual check by the new "inspectors" which may or may not recommend a PIR or other expert opinion. Judging by the shower of wannabe HIP inspector trainees that were on Radio 4 couple of months back, then as long as your wires are colour coordinated they'll pass!

"Ooh look Trinny, brown IS the new red!"

People speak ill of surveyors for being of variable efficiency in finding problems, but this new breed of inspector sounds like it will drop to a whole lower level.

Waste of bl**dy time and money IMO. The only bit that can be trusted will be the searches as they are pretty procedural, but they'll be repeated by the buyer's conveyancer anyway, just in case the HIP missed something.

Tim

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Tim S

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Tim S

I am all for sensible regulations on new builds, but this is a bit silly really.

Prescott is a total asshole anyway..he understands nothing, and should be fired.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Blair can't fire him, cos he is blanking off his arse. And what a big blank he makes ;-)

Having said that, he does need a huge arse to blank him :-)

Once we get rid of the B liar, the likes of prescot will wither.

Dave

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Dave

He would wither a lot faster in front of a flamethrower

Reply to
John

Buncefield 2 ?

Reply to
Andy Hall

Welcome to the real world. It has always been there. Otherwise go and live in Chad.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

Another brainwashed Tory idiot. The longest sustained economic growth in history. We could go back to poverty, deprivation, and hundreds of thousands living on the streets as we had with the Conservatories. I which I prefer.

I Tony Blair told NO lies. Many instigations proved that. Did Central Office send you here? Boris for PM. My God!!!!!

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

Amazing. A man from Grimsby, that beacon of prosperity under the Tories.

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Doctor Drivel

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