cyhalothrin is not particularly noxious to humans
But it is massively toxic to bees.
I will be taking it further, but I just wanted to ID what spray might
have been in use
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led nowhere.
You don't want members of the public actually contacting you do you?
chap perfectly happy to tell me how to sort of pets chips, but not bees.
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local SBI simply hasnt bothered to contact us - email and phone messages
left. "the farmers friend?"
Thanks for that.
Bees sent off
email sent.
all we can do for now.
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The ban doesn't come into effect until December so maybe the farmer is
trying to use up existing stock - even though the spraying conditions
aren't suitable.
We lost one hive a few years ago because (as it turned out) they got
their water from a neighbour's bird-bath; he'd been spraying a wasp-nest
nearby and poisoned the water.
Two other hives right next to it were fine - they must have got their
water from somewhere else.
The NBU labs were very helpful in analysing a sample of dead bees and
identifying the specific poison.
My missus was the spray coordinator for our area for several years. In
spite of contacting the NFU and local farmers we never received a single
call warning about spraying.
A real arable farmer was here earlier today retrieving his post banger
so I asked the question.
He said that for OSR 3 weeks after emerging, the seed dressing would be
losing effectiveness and a cypermethrin variant might be used to kill
Flea Beetle.
Records of product used, time of spraying, temp and wind conditions are
all conditions of crop accreditation schemes. Spraying in unsuitable
weather conditions may breach cross compliance rules and put CAP
payments at risk.
I don't think anyone has yet blamed the farmers, they don't sell horses.
TNP's potential complaint is just the sort of thing that leads to an
investigation of paperwork and fines. There is no appeal against a
decision by DEFRA to dock CAP payments.
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:13:57 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:
conditions
and
Some do but true enough, even the dumbest of abattoir worker probably
knows the difference between a horse or beef carcase but once it's
just steaks...
It's the bureaucrat sitting in a cosy office who will look at the
paperwork and see that it was a still day with the right conditions
on the signed form from the farmer. End of complaint. I'd be very
surprised if they bothered to look up weather conditions for that
locality at that time(*), after all the farmer isn't going to put
false data on the forms as:
But realistically, what real checking goes on? Maybe a few random
spot checks but otherwise out with the stamp, pass it on...
(*) Occasionally I get people in the locality here asking for wind or
rain data for a given date as their insurance company are saying it
wasn't windy or rainy. Insurance co has looked at the weather data
for the nearest easyily available weather station data, Carlisle
Airport, 25 to 30 miles away and at sea level not >1000'. It's a
different world up here...
Sure is ...
I have a very real problem predicting weather up here, in Scotland.
Most days I look out of the window, and see some rain on the hills
opposite. Used to thinking in terms of more southerly weather, I
think: ":-( It'll be raining here in an hour, can't mow the lawn
then!", but what actually happens is very difficult to predict.
Sometimes the rain is lashing on the windows within ten minutes, other
days it gets 'stuck' on the hills for several hours, and I could have
mowed the lawn after all - the former happened yesterday, the latter
today!
As for hanging clothes out, I hardly ever dare. It looked settled
sunny a week or so ago, so I hung my t-shirts outside, with three
clips on each hanger in an attempt to keep it on the line in the brisk
breeze, even so, some were soon off again. Within an hour, it had
began to rain and I was dashing about getting them in again, wetter
than when they went out. Fortunately, the house's old porch is large
and has lots of windows like a greenhouse, so it makes an excellent
drying room. I've seen neighbours' clothing hung outside in all
weathers for days at a time.
Talking of neighbours, I've been discovering that one of my more
distant ones is rather a 'wide' character. "Pleasant enough chap!",
another neighbour said, "Don't buy a car from him, though!". I
laughed, because I knew he'd been done for receiving stolen vehicles
about a decade or so ago.
Allegedly the 'wide' neighbour has had serious trouble with another of
his neighbours, and been assaulted by him.
A while back, the 'wide' guy was stopped by the police for 'Drunk In
Charge ...' but it was only one officer, so, I suppose, he waited for
him to get out of the car, and approach, and then took off. He got
home and into his house before he could be caught, and of course
they'd've needed a warrant to forcibly enter the house, so he got away
with it.
Then, a shorter while ago, he was driving home at night, and a car
pulled out behind him. As he claimed, thinking it was this neighbour
out to get him, he took off again. However, it was the police again,
probably out to even the score - he didn't get away with it that
time!
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:49:56 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
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Defra do inspect. I don't know the frequency and have never had one but
there is often a posting on the farming forums of the dreaded
inspection.
The accredited crops assessment is annual so predictable. They are
thorough! As you say, judicious recording of weather data is likely.
Nobody knows. Bees are a hot topic currently so, if the chemists concur,
there may well be a follow up. Spraying near housing in windy conditions
is inviting trouble.
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:42:24 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:
an
conditions
HMR&C VAT Inspect as well, I've never had one, been VAT registered
for 20 years. I'm very small fry though and the numbers always add
up. B-)
TNP's complaint may make Defra look a bit closer but for just one
hive (sorry TNP) I doubt any "inspection" would be anymore than a
paper excercise.
Certainly, if they get a few complaints about this incident that
would probably make them pay more attention.
Nope. Having wind data going back to 1999, albeit not at 10 m. I have
looked at what a 2.5 kW or 6 kW Proven would likely produce and it
wasn't a great deal. Most of the time even the 6 kW jobbie wouldn't
even meet the daytime base load of about 1kW.
Someone a few years back did propose 5 x 2 MW jobbies on Middle Fell,
there was some opposition that highlighted the spin being used in the
publicity material, it all went rather quiet after that.
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