Hi All,
I was wondering how folks heat a table and chairs area outside. I have a few fire oriented sources of heat but ideally of course everyone will be sat around it to benefit from the heat. Unfortunately, we have a table and chairs set so only way I can think of is to have several of them behind those sitting which seems a bit odd.
Any cunning ideas?
thanks
Lee.
Wait for summer?
IR radiant heaters would seem to be the least wasteful way to go or try going oriental with a kotatsu.
IR radiant overhead is the usual way - either mounted under a brolly, or on a wall. Could also be on a pergola etc.
One could fabricate a hanging wire mesh basket, and cinder tray, that you could feed with charcoal etc.
Four well-insulated walls and an insulated roof ?
There is no environmentally friendly way of heating outside but if you want something to sit around that at least will warm all those seated around it, then Google ?fire pit? and you will get several examples from simple brazier like devices to low BBQs fuelled either with wood or charcoal.
Richard
That's not what he asked. Why assume that he cares about 'the environment'? We haven't all been brainwashed you know.
Bill
As long as you are not sitting downwind of it. Even with clean wood you may up stinking of smoke - often not evident until the next morning if alcohol is involved.
Perhaps build a wood fired pizza oven with a chimney high enough to keep the smoke out of the way.
Trouble with the fire pit is that it presumes people are sat around it.
funny you should say that. I bought one for exactly that reason so I could cook pizza and also use it as a heater (we have loads of logs from a tree we had to cut down a few years ago). Problem is where to put it. If everyone is sat around a table, I can only put it in one area so it heats only those in that bit of the table. I could have a few I guess (say one in each corner)..
I was toying with doing something, but figured you need a corner or at least some screen walls for best effect to keep the wind and the chill off.
Perhaps a hypocaust with some underground ducting so you can waft hot air up under the table?
Now that is spooky. We currently have a concrete slab on the patio area which is about 150mm below what will be the finished level. I too thought something like a hypocaust would be a cool solution as I have the space to run the ducting (could even dig some more out of the concrete slab if needed) but thought this was too "wacky" and assumed nobody else has done this for a reason. Ages ago I saw some program on the TV about people living in mud huts. One of them had made some sort of hypocaust type solution where you fed sticks into one end and somehow the heat travelled along a "pipe" on the floor. I can't recall how it was made or how it worked but something like that would be perfect but can't see for the life of me how this would work without pumping smoke out of the vents in the floor at those sat at the table. I did wonder whether an electric fan heater blowing hot hair down into some "underground" trunking would work.
Did you get anywhere with your design?
I think the idea is that you keep the smoke and the heated air separate
- so fire under s slab, that has some brick columns supporting the final floor slab. The under finished floor space is vented so it can draw in cold air from the side, and the top vents let out the warmed air. The fire is contained under the lower slab.
I did not even get as far as trying - more at the "would that work?" musing stage.
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The Roman ones simply heated the floor, with ducts also running up the walls. No direct venting of air into the room. They did require a slave to keep the fire going though.
If it's cold enough, they'll sit around it.
#Paul
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