OT: Tes**'s, relentless onslaught ..?

I liked the following from their terms of business:

"Additionally, Acts of God, weather-related conditions and states of emergencies can delay delivery beyond the stated delivery parameters."

Never mind about that. This is a DIY group, and you can make your own.

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there are books.

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of these projects must require Forstner bits.

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Andy Hall
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You must stop making things up.

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Doctor Drivel

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Well they're all different, although obviously the Crusty White Farmhouse and the Crusty White Farmhouse Sliced started out identical before being sliced or not.

It means Tesco's premium/luxury range aimed at tempting shoppers away from Sainsbury.

My point is that 93 breads is not an unreasonably large number. In fact it's rather small for a moderate-sized well-stocked supermarket.

No, they were the only supplier for miles and they baked x trays of loaves regardless of what customers wanted.

Me too. That is why I like supermarkets, the quickest most efficient way of spending my £10 weekly food budget.

Owain

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Owain

True, and in Germany have a reasonable reputation. Here they have deliberately chosen the discount end of the market and have a very low market share as well.

The stock exchange and financial analysts have marked them down heavily for incompetence and failing to deliver on what was promised to shareholders. They have been forced to take non exec directors on board which will further add to the confusion and lack of focus and it will be extremely hard for them to ever recover from that. I think that they are doomed.

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Andy Hall

I would if I had, but it's also what the financial analysts think.

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Andy Hall

This is the nub of the issue throughout.

Most people want to buy on price and convenience and are happy to be told by the marketeers that the quality is good even when it demonstrably isn't. The retail sector is littered with this low quality attitude.

Until that ethos changes, the inevitable slide will continue.

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Andy Hall

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Doctor Drivel

When Tesco went upmarket we were left with no discount supermarkets. The Continentals filled the gap. Most people over there shop at discount places for the bulk of their food. The Brits are just petty snobs.

Mary is right. There isn't much regionalism in supermarkets, apart from the odd savoury counter ticked in the corner somewhere. Do Tesco in East Ham has a jellied eel counter?

Tripe. They have borrowed heavily to merge two supermarkets and haven't even done it yet, so profits are bound to be low.. The Morrisons nearest to me is always packed.

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Doctor Drivel

In fact Aldi in Germany are at a very different place in the market than they have positioned themselves here. Have you been to one?

Speak for yourself.

Wrong. There is a great deal of regional and demographic profiling of product by the supermarkets like Tesco, Sainsbury and Waitrose who employ professional merchandising people.

Why do you think these people have loyalty schemes? It's precisely so that they can target stock profile to what people want to buy in a given store.

That doesn't surprise me. As far as the financial analysts are concerned, if you can't be bothered to read the financial reports, I am not going to attempt to educate you.

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Andy Hall

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There are plenty of suggestions that Morrisons doesn't have a clue about regional marketing.

The Labour councillor for Middleton in Leeds, Stuart Bruce had a slightly different view, and I quote

"The fact is that Morrissons is simply a rubbish supermarket. It competes entirely on the basis of price, with quality and service seeming to be irrelevant. It's even a bit of a myth that it's cheap. The quality of most of its own label products is so appalling that you are forced into buying more expensive branded products.

In my humble opinion the Competition Commission report should have forced Morrisons to dispose of some of its existing stores in the north where in some areas it already has a virtual monopoly. It dominates inner south Leeds with its stores in Hunslet, Rothwell, Morley and the city centre"

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Andy Hall

True. On he other hand, the local(Bloomsbury) Safeway was due to be expanded and improved. Then Morrisons took over and it is presently in limbo, a sort of Morrions trading as Safeway or vice versa. Morrisons decided not to be part of the redevelopment so now the new supermarket will be a Waitrose. I rarely used the Safeway, I've never used it since it become Morrisons. The new Waitrose will be much closer than Holloway or Marylebone. So fine for me but how many people round here will moan that the Waitrose is too expensive etc?

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DJC

LOL .. true ;-)

True again .. and 'fixing' the BIOS so you couldn't disable the on-board graphics card .. or 'locking' you into their ISP etc .. (all fixable if you know how).

From memory still only pretty std 'clones' .. same mobo (like Tiny used MicroStar a lot) , cpu, hdd, fdd, cdrom, memory, video etc etc as one you could build yourself (just would come in a plain cardboard box rather than a Friesian one ;-)

I have *never* bought a new branded PC (and the first I built was an XT clone) and apart from the odd component (1 x PSU, 1 X mobo (voltage reg) and a couple of hdd / cdroms etc) most have been pretty reliable (considering they were often also 'test beds' for stuff).

All the best ..

T i m

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T i m

Woooosh .. sorry Rod missed that one?

All the best ..

T i m

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T i m

LOL .. I would have thought "Acts of God" would have a big impact on casket orders ;-)

bouyant 'second user' market is there?

Or a new SDS drill at least! Hey, what if you wanted to dig yer own hole as well (do Screwfix do mini diggers!)?

You can see the building inspector now ... "No, sorry, you are going to have to go down another .5m ... "

All the best ..

T i m

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T i m

They made £380m last year.

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Doctor Drivel

I'm speaking for you.

Well I have never noticed it.

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Doctor Drivel

Then you would have observed the difference.

I don't think so. Only I speak for me.

So I should be surprised?

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Andy Hall

Irrelevant. They missed their forecasts multiple times and demonstrated to the analysts that they did not have a good handle on the business.

This results in as big an effect if not bigger than poor achievement.

Institutional and other investors don't like nasty surprises. It suggests incompetence.

Sooner rather than later, heads roll as they have and the parasitic non-exec directors arrive.

All of this was very obvious.

I know that this is all on a rather different plane to life on the trade counter, but it is how the world of business works.

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Andy Hall

Hopefully they will appreciate the quality.

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Andy Hall

And what is also irritating, is that is all they would sell. I recall a neighbour going in to a Tiny shop to see if he could buy a new system unit (he still had all the other clobber from the first time), to which the answer was "no - you have to have the desk etc!"

Tiny seemed to sell a raft load of very under speced PCs in small tower cases - characterised with a 90W PSU that was actually underrated for the bits in it at time of purchase. Makes upgrading the things a pain because you always have to replace the PSU before you can do much else (and the dinky one is held in with some daft extra metalwork that can be a pain to remove.

Time were very poor in this respect - as you said lots of highly integrated (but bargain basement MBs) to cut costs of add in cards etc. They used loads of PC Chips boards at one time that had overclocked chipsets.

Gateway were certainly better in terms of construction and components used. Although there was a time they were doing a certain amount of Dell/Compaq style "value added engineering" (i.e. using bespoke and non standard parts).

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John Rumm

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