Well, it will soon be safe. The EU is finished without us, we will just
be starting the flood for the richer countries to get out, of that I am
convinced. The rest are just watching and waiting to see how we fair in
the process.
I'm not. There arent that many richer countries
and I can't see Germany or France leaving.
Both have too much to gain by remaining.
Holland might, but its too small to matter much.
But don't have much more to lose than Britain does with the richer countrys.
The sagging euro is the reason german industry has done so well world wide.
The CAP has always been what france gets out of the EU apart from no
more world wars.
If only that had been made clear before the referendum. It's been stated
that the older generation voted out - presumably expecting a relatively
quick fix. Whereas the young - who would benefit in 20 years time if
things do work out - voted stay.
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*42.7% of statistics are made up. Sorry, that should read 47.2% *
Dave Plowman snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk London SW
And how do you know this? In my place of work it was the mid to older
generation who voted to stay. In a busy rural pub prior to the
referendum where the general conversation got around to the referendum a
straw poll suggested a 50:50 split irrespective of age.
This kind of age generalisation is as bogus as saying that ALL leavers
voted that way because they believed that we would have an extra £250m a
week for the NHS.
From the various meja. Including statistics. I didn't interview the entire
population myself.
Only a rather small percentage needed to believe this lie to sway the vote
from stay to leave. But add in those from the UK 'rust belt' who just
wanted change at any cost and you have an answer.
The 64,000 dollar question being if that change at any cost actually is of
any benefit to them in the foreseeable future.
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*I have my own little world - but it's OK...they know me here*
Dave Plowman snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk London SW
Nothing I have seen or heard in the Brexit campaign has persuaded me
that Brexit will be anything other than an unmitigated disaster for both
the UK and he EU. We are too deeply embedded for there to be an easy
separation and too reliant on the Brussels bureaucracy to have the
skills needed to extricate ourselves from the vengeful remainder without
serious damage. That is why I voted for remain. I have no fondness for
Brussels and considerable suspicion of the way the rest of the EU pays
lip service to the rules of the EU while disregarding them whenever the
rules do not suit them. In contrast to the UK which can be guaranteed to
gold plate the regulations and enforce them with much more vigour than
our continental cousins think appropriate for themselves.
I am completely satisfied that Brexit is the correct decision and will
be a success. I was told by many that when I went solo some 40 years
ago, that I was making a huge mistake to step out of the international
corporate world. They were wrong, it was the best decision I ever made.
I now have a lifestyle that I could never have conceived when I took
that decision. The EU is a corporate state and will undoubtedly fall
apart at some stage, very few corporations last more than 100 years.
And if the result had been "remain" and things didn't work out? They
might wish they'd voted "leave" to get things sorted sooner ... it's all
ifs, buts and maybes on either side.
You think what's in the media is any more accurate than opinion polls
have been for the last decade or two?
Nope. If after say 3 years it isnt that different on anything apart
from the mass movement of immigrants from the EU stopping,
most will decided that it worked out they way they wanted.
Yes, and it clearly does some countrys quite
a bit of good, particularly France, Germany
and those countrys that are net benefitiarys.
Even Greece chose not to leave, for a reason.
Like hell it does. Very few of the
rest would do better if they left.
And imposing tariffs on the trade between Britain and the EU
wouldn’t stop Britain doing better outside the EU anyway.
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
They get lots of other benefits by being in the EU.
Those that are net receivers of what the
EU hands out wouldn’t get that anymore.
Germany wouldn’t get the effective devaluation
that has helped their exports so dramatically
outside the EU and wouldn’t be able to interfere
in how the other countrys in the EU do things either.
France would lose the CAP which they benefit from dramatically.
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