OT: Now we know....

[The Medway Handyman]

"In an exclusive EcologyNews.com interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre, radiation and directed energy expert Leuren Moret, MA, PhD ABT, revealed that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 of March 8, 2014 was, by the evidence, shot down by a newly unveiled U.S. Navy Laser Weapons System (LaWS).

According to Leuren Moret, the location of the downed Malaysia Flight

370 as first confirmed by an admiral of the Vietnamese armed forces was correct, while the U.S. and Malaysian media have published a continual stream of disinformation as a diversion to cover-up this military false flag operation by the U.S. Navy".

[Brian Gaff]

Yeah right. I'd imagine with the current whistle blowing tendencies, we would actually have known this, if it were true very soon after it happened. Is this the web site that also suggests that Aliens are already here pretending to be humans? Brian

[The Natural Philosopher]

I thought it was beyond doubt that it was abducted by aliens..

[Nightjar]

You mean Harry?

Colin Bignell

[Nick Odell]

I think it was Simon Calder in the Indie who said that the authorities were examining every potential explanation with the exception of alien abduction and I couldn't help pondering on that classic quote from Sherlock Holmes...

Nick

[Graham.]

We will know for sure when the find the cockpit voice recorder and hear Herbert Lom playing "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" on a theatre organ.

[Bob Eager]

And they used a tractor beam to turn it round first...

[Brian Gaff]

Or claims that there is a Harley Davidson on the Moon? Harry?

Brian

[Brian Gaff]

Its quite plainly in Russia, its about the only place left to look for it except the Moon. This has as often happens shown up holes in our technological safety net. If you have no idea where to look for something, you will end up only finding it by accident. Brian

[Brian Gaff]

The most inventive one I heard was that somehow a mercury thermometer got onto the plane and it broke and the Mercury ate through the aluminium of the plane and caused a depressurisation. No I don't buy it either. Where are the psychics on this one, surely all their crystal balls cannot be away at the repairers? Brian

[Brian Gaff]

Its too late for any transmitting device to be heard now. Surely the best idea for such situations is a special dye that is released that can be traced in very small quantities and act like a trail back to the origin.

Brian

[Nightjar]

I would have thought the best answer was an Emergency Position-Indicating Radio Beacon (EPRIB). It could be stored somewhere outside the main fuselage, like the tail fin, to be released by a force of a couple of g and/or by pressure exceeding two atmospheres. It would them automatically transmit a distress call and give its location, which would be picked up by satellite and transmitted to the nearest rescue centre.

They are well established for marine use and accurate enough that, when thieves in a Scottish marina threw one overboard from a yacht they were breaking into, the rescue centre in Poole was able to guide Police to the boat, where they caught the thieves in the act.

Colin Bignell

[whisky-dave]

Something radioactive might be best, although I did see a program where a dog managed to smell cent through water and be able to track a persons body and locate it by smell even though it was a few metres or so underwater.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I'd have thought something as big and important as an aircraft carrying passengers could be continuously tracked all the time it's in flight? There must be more than enough satellites up there.

[John Williamson]

They can be, and the owners can also get full telemetry sent to them on a second by second basis.

The service is run by Inmarsat and costs money, though, and Malaysian Airlines only paid for the lowest level of service.

[Nightjar]

They are, but not if somebody turns the equipment off. An EPRIB in the tail fin would be a completely independent backup that nobody could stop calling for help if the aircraft crashed or sank.

Colin Bignell

[Baz]

Even "IF" it is "Found" now, I wouldn't believe anything that is on the recorders. It could have been anywhere and the remains salted. My theory is the plane was hijacked by the Merkins with the fly by wire system, because there were a load of Chinese computer experts (with knowledge of a new system) on board. The plane was taken to Diego Garcia.

Baz

[whisky-dave]

Why just in the tail fin is that the most important part of the plane ? I'd have thought to have such a thing near the black box flight recorder so it'd indicate where that was. If a tail fin should be dettched from teh plane at a 30,000 ft I'm not sure how close the tail fin would be to any other part of the plane after impact.

[Nightjar]

While I take your point, for most accidents, the tail is where least damage is likely to occur, which is why the black boxes are usually located there, although not in the fin. I only suggest the fin because (a) it is outside the pressurised hull, which means nobody can reach it in flight to tamper with the beacon and (b) it is mostly empty space, so there is plenty of room to add a small beacon.

Of course, being small and relatively cheap items, there would be nothing to stop two or three being carried in different parts. The aviation industry often goes in for multiple redundancy, although the beacon would, itself, be a backup to other systems. Also, getting three separate signals many miles apart would leave little doubt about the fate of the aircraft.

Colin Bignell

[Jethro_uk]

When this was hot news, a few weeks ago, I heard an air crash investigator summarise what was known, and he commented it was almost impossible not to believe it had been planned. The plane changing course when ATCs handed over, and then heading for possibly the worst part of the world to disappear in. He mentioned how fierce the weather was - and the next day came the news search had to be delayed because of the weather.

The only real question, is was it a pilot-led (possibly suicide) incident ? Or a hijacking gone wrong ?