Harry only wants to see a single cause that he can blame on people he
Two major factors are that we are living longer and fewer people are
living in one dwelling - an average of two per dwelling today, as
compared to five in the 1950s. The problem is also not that there are
not enough houses; there are around 5.2% more places to live than
households wanting wanting to live in them. The problem is that the
housing and the households are not in the same places.
London is one of the worst places for a shortage of housing, partly
because of a lack of suitable places for development and partly because
its population is growing at around twice the national average.
Immigration does play a big part there. A lot of people, particularly
people in their thirties with families, are moving out of London but
even more are moving in; principally highly qualified people in their
20s, both British and foreign, coming to London to work. However, that
doesn't fit the profile that Harry or the person who wrote the article
want to blame.
Net immigration (Office of National Statistic figures) between 1998 to
2017 was 4.5 million. This is not an insignificant figure in 20 years.
UK population in the same period went from 58.5 to 66 million.
In the same period an estate of flats (one of which I bought in 1995 for
£45k) are now valued at £235k (identical flat just along, 2017 Land
Sure, there are other factors (irresponsible mortgage lending, higher
divorce rates [related to the PP's note that occupancy factors are
lower] leading to further market pressure) but it would be very hard to
claim the massive increase in population and consequent demand has no
link with the value of limited housing.
Would anybody else, without the same anti-immigration agenda, have
posted it without the sort of caveats that I have raised?
I have no reason to doubt the figures. I am simply pointing out that the
idea of a housing shortage is a regional, rather than a national,
concept, and that, while immigration cannot help but affect the demand
for housing, it is not the only factor and may not be the most
important. Even if the population level had remained static since the
1950s, the occupancy level would mean that we would now need two and a
half times as many dwellings to house the same number. Life expectancy
for men has also risen by 19% since 1951 and by 16% for women, also
increasing demand for housing.
On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:55:35 +0000, Nightjar wrote:
It's not just housing the migrants (EU or otherwise) are putting pressure
on. It's just about every form of infrastructure you can think of. I
don't blame them, not for a second, they're only trying to better their
lives; but this has been very badly managed by those in government who
surely must have seen it coming - yet did NOTHING.
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On Sunday, 18 March 2018 09:38:43 UTC, Nightjar wrote:
If there were no migration, the population would have fallen.
There would be plenty of houses for everyone and they'd be cheaper.
Only the Guardian comes out with crap like yours.
Where do you suppose all the millions of migrants are living?
Migrants are paying taxes, they are coming here and "hitting the
ground running". They support the NHS and buy/ pay for housing.
The true scum to b lame are babies and toddlers, they never paid a
penny into the system and are the prime reason for house buying.
These leeches will suck the country dry for years, and when they come
of age will fill every prison in Britain.
Sent them back, thats what I say. It may be a trifle difficult with
teens, but with a good set of tyre levers......
On Sunday, 18 March 2018 15:26:59 UTC, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
Most migrant don't pay any tax.
Most money they earn is sent back "home".
They are here to keep the general wages low and property prices high and rising so the likes of Tony Bliar can benefit from their property portfolio.
We all pay tax.
Apart from scum like Mogg, the hero of the Brexiters who has his
Cayman Islands buisiness to help his ilk to channel their wealth from
To live in the UK costs money, to earn money you pay tax. If you are
aware of tax fiddles by migrants or anyone else do your country a
favour you nasty bigoted scumbag and report it to the appropriate
authourity, and not uk.d-i-y
He is an expense fiddling liar and cheat who is happy to channel the
UK's money into his own business.
By anyones standards this person is scum of the lowest order.
Sadly voters deserve scum like that, simply because they are
hoodwinked by the idea that instead of outside business interests
being a conflict of interest and a sign that the scumbag is just a
greedy individual unhappy with his MP's salary and pension package,
they are some kind of ongoing research vehicle only raking it in out
of the goodness of their hearts.
People that fiddle expenses are thieving lying scum. They should be
sacked and if it's public money, imprisoned.
Child molesters, rapists and other filth are pilloried, why should
Mogg not escape his due's?
Currently I am a little tied up with one or two other items that I
want interaction from the UK government on.
I am also practical, to try to make a criminal complaint would be
difficult and I have every confidence that it would never even get his
Trying to do anything through the government isn't worthwhile either,
any party with Johnson in the cabinet has lost the plot anyway, and I
would be expecting members of the same cabal to act against him.
I never put it forward as an argument. It's fact.
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