Oh how I wish that would work...
Ireland is going to benefit from english speaking american firms moving from Britain so as to be inside the EU, but lose from the chaos of the EU border with the north which both must be there and must not be there.
I blame Cameron for his referendum campaign, and Boris and co and the newspapers for their misleading Brexit campaign.
I dont blame the Leave voters who believed their newspapers that Leave would be easy and beneficial.
And yesterday they were mocking Vince Cable (the economist who predicted the last crash) for mispronouncing a stupid erotic spasm soundbite someone wrote for him.
And I feel a smidgen of pity for Theresa May who's trying to hold her party together in impossible times.
On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 12:14:24 AM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
My feelings exactly. The EU should have stayed as a common market, without
all the unified legal system that has been foisted on us since we voted to
join in the mid 70s. It should also have remained as a union of western
European countries of similar standards of living, to avoid problems of
economic migration, with people allowed to work in a country that pays very
high wages and then send that money back to their own home country where it
has much greater buying power.
I had hoped that our politicians (Maggie especially, who was a force to be
reckoned with) would have argued against the trend of greater European
sovereignty and loss or our own, because it is always best to fight from
within. But given that this has proved not to be possible, I think we *may*
have made the right decision to jump ship. Thank goodness we never adopted
I'm very pro-Europe, but I'm also very anti-EU. There *is* a difference
between the two, a point which a lot of Remainers seem to miss.
I don't blame Cameron for having the referendum. It was right to give the
public the vote. But we need politicians who then deliver what the public
want, not a worst-of-all-worlds solution which we look as if we are going to
end up with. Ideally the deal should have been hammered out long before the
referendum so we knew the *full* implications of voting to leave.
Maybe so. But this subthread is based on:
"My feelings exactly. The EU should have stayed as a common market,
all the unified legal system that has been foisted on us since we voted
join in the mid 70s."
That was snipped many posts ago. I still don't see what that has to do
with "Bexiteers claim to know more about the EU's plans than the EU
itself does". A different POV has been put forward using the word "should".
Perhaps the poster is right, if the integration was slower we would
remain a happy family. Change has to be gradual to become accepted.
The point is that no-one of importance has suggested a change in legal
*system*. If they (whether EU or a UK government) did so (and note we
have a two different systems in Great Britain) I would share your
concerns about a fascist dictatorship being planned. Consider, for
instance, what is happening to the judicial system in Poland.
Quite. All the headline talk about 'sovereignty' and so on just designed
to wind up Express readers even more. And allow them to think it means
anything they fear it could.
Can you really see the likes of France changing its culture etc just
because the EU said so? Or any other country, come to that.
Of course there needs to be common laws and standards for trade and
services etc. And an arbiter for any disputes arising from that. Leaving
any dispute up to individual courts in the countries concerned only would
be great for lawyers, but no one else.
*The most wasted day of all is one in which we have not laughed.*
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
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