Illiterate buggers

Just seen, on BBC1, Saturday Kitchen Live. An item that seems to be in a junior school. On a big wall poster and also on some work cards: “Mary Berries Teatime Club.”
Bill
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On 11/11/2017 10:30, Bill Wright wrote:

Reading and writing no longer seem to be a priority in schools these days, it's all meeja studies, whatever that is?
Can't have the poor darlings straining their brains, can we now?
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On 11/11/2017 10:55, Ash Burton wrote:

Attenborough is excelling himself in split infinitives in Blue Planet 2
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:31:21 +0000, newshound

Nothing wrong with split infinitives and it is just a poncy hark back to latin to think otherwise.
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Yes, my understanding is that Victorian grammarians decided that, as you couldn't split infinitives in Latin (as the infinitive verb form is a single word), it was wrong to do so in English as well. Personally, I think that "to boldly go" sounds much better than either "boldly to go" or "to go boldly".
<rant> As we seem to be giving our pet bad grammar hates, I'll mention my own. Over the last ten or twenty years even seemingly quite well-educated people have increasingly been saying "I was stood" or "I was sat" instead of "I was sitting" or "I was standing". (The same applies if you replace "was" with "am".) They wouldn't dream of saying "I was ran" or "I am ran", so why has it become almost universal? It seems to be a wholly British thing, as I don't recall ever hearing an American mangle the language in this way. </rant>
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On 12/11/17 10:29, John Hall wrote:

I was stood up after being stood in the corner. It wasn't my day as a teenage lothario. Then I was seated in the worst seat for the rock concert.
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:)
I don't object to any of those, where standing/sitting couldn't be used without changing the meaning.
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wrote:

Yes, and I agree. :-)

I guess we all have our irritations, like "He learned them" rather than "He taught them".
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On 12/11/17 13:32, Yellow wrote:

You teach with books and chalk, you learn with a cane.
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On 12/11/2017 13:32, Yellow wrote:

Yes but that's the use of a wrong word, not grammar as such. Round here it is customary to address a misbehaving dog or child thus: "I'll larn tha' in a minute!"
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:45:20 +0000, Bill Wright

I note you read th Pedant in Saturday's Times.
__ brightside S9
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On 12/11/2017 22:49, brightside S9 wrote:

No I didn't actually. I was really busy that day and scarcely skimmed the paper. In fact I sat up in bed this morning and opened it for the fist time (I always take it to bed) and skimmed it. I got to the letters and that was it. I haven't looked at the Sunday Times yet. It's ridiculous. We get a paper bill of £70 and I don't have time to read the damned things. Of course 'er indoors likes her Daily Mirror of a morning, then she pores over the Times later on. We take two locals, the Donny Free Press and the Rotherham Advertiser. I only look at the letters page in the DFP because I'm often on it, and sometimes others slag me off there. I sometimes read bits from the Advertiser because of all the hoo-ha in Rotherham with the CSA and that.
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Yes, that's awful.
Something else that irks me, without being in the same league, is that nobody seems to be given anything any more. They are "gifted" it instead.
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John Hall wrote:

    Is this like falling pregnant?
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On 12/11/2017 17:15, Capitol wrote:

Like being taken pregnant, or being taken drunk.
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On Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:32:21 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:

No, you fall pregnant after being taken drunk.
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Falling at the first jump?
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On 12/11/2017 16:24, John Hall wrote:

And just what is 'pre-ordering'?
When we could first receive CNN (on a big dish) we were perplexed by the word weeknights. Who were these small crusaders?
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Ordering something that you know can't be delivered immediately that you know will be delivered later when it becomes available.
What else are you going to call that that is so succinct and obvious in meaning ?

That’s your ear to ear dog shit.

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On 12/11/2017 19:31, Rod Speed wrote:

So it's 'ordering' then? Like I ordered my turkey for Christmas. Said bird is not yet in any state to be sold as a food product.

Ordering. That's what it's always been called.
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