Gotta hand it to the tories.

I fancied a hot pork sandwich today, ok they're £2 but what the hell, lets live a little. Hmmm, they're now £2.40 thanks to the guvmint. That's 8 old shilling, nearly half a quid extra. I'll be damned if I buy another one. In their wisdom, the guvmint has added vat to things which are kept warm and sold at a temperature higher than ambient. If they're not kept warm and are cooling down, no vat (so Greggs are ok with the pasties). Brilliant. Might be interesting to see what happens with fish'n'chip shops. Presumably chinese takeaways are ok since its cooked to order and isn't kept warm. Shirley frozen stuff should have vat also? The shops are keeping it frozen for us, it isn't warming up. Pity the govmint have no idea of the real world. Bring on the election, can't wait to vote for my mate David.
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brass monkey wrote:

Takeaway meals have been subject to VAT for a long time.
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On 06/10/2012 20:48, John Williamson wrote:

Yip, me too.
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ss wrote:

Not what I wrote. Idiot.
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John Williamson;2939798 Wrote: > ss wrote:-

Seems fair enough really. As said take-away food (luxury item) has been subject to VAT for a while, whereas other food (an essential) has not. If your hot curry, chips or special fried rice are subject, little unfair that the take-away hot pasty is not?!
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jagillham wrote:

To get the attributions straight, In the post ss replied to, I was pointing out that takeaway hot meals had been subject to VAT for quite some time. I did not mention my voting intentions, that was in the post I was replying to.
The problem with the new VAT rules is that if Greggs (Other bakers are available) sell me a pasty that just happens to have come straight out of the oven and is hot, it is a VAT zero rated item, whereas if they let it cool down and then put it in a microwave to warm it up, or put in a hot cupboard to keep it hot for a while, they have to charge 20% VAT on the exact same product, namely a hot pasty. If they let it cool down to room temperature and sell it at that temperature, then there is likewise a zero rate of VAT on it.
If they sell the pasty to the shop next door, as I understand it, the sale is subject to 20% VAT (Business to business sale). If the other shop sell it cold, it is now VAT zero rated, so the shop has to recover the VAT paid from the taxman. On the other hand, if the other shop has a microwave on the premises for heating pasties, and either the staff or the customer use it, the pasty then becomes subject to 20% VAT again.
An insane set of rules...
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Of course, it's the tories. If you're a boss (or think you're something you're not) you vote tory, if you're a worker you vote labour, it still works today.
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When you've taken the wife around the local council estates to collect Provident Cheque repayments and are met with the wife of the household (with a couple of snotty nosed kids [hubby is in the boozer]) saying "come back next week we have no money", you think they'll vote tory?
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brass monkey wrote:

Q.E.D.
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brass monkey wrote:

If you are a worker you voter Tory or UKIP,. if you are a shirker you vote Labour,
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Same as me - by putting a cross on your ballot paper in the place of your choice.
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hugh wrote:

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adam wrote:

I vote for a person. When I was deselected I couldn't bring myself to vote for my party's choice of my replacement, based on comparing known histories of him and the other candidates. I voted for somebody else who from knowning their work in the community over the previous years I felt would be a better replacement for me than him.
Didn't work, he got elected anyway, then a few of weeks later promptly defected over to the other party anyway.
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OK, so you think "s/he's a decent person, s/he gets my vote for wanting protection for ducks in my local park?" Bollocks to the party line?

Over to Labour?
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Even if I'm wrong, who but the equally pompous would vote for Kenneth (pompous, I'm not listening to you) Clarke besides Sainsburys shoppers? Shirley Sainsbury = (lets pay a bit more) Tory, Asda = (how much? they can piss off) Labour?
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brass monkey wrote:

Yes, bollocks to the party line. Especially important if who you vote for can't change the control of the council, like this year where it was a choice of Labour staying in control or Labour increasing their majority.
I was in the position - increasingly rare nowadays - of being able to observe the actions of three of the candidates (one was a parish councillor, two were active on the community forum, I'd worked with all three of them myself) and was able to come to a judgement of who to vote for based on their actions and on my assessment of how effective they would be as a city councillor.
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snipped-for-privacy@arcade.demon.co.uk wrote:

I voted to get rid of Gordon Brown. And hopefully Labour. The only party to say all the right things and then do all the wrong things.
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The Tories don't? Gimme a break. They're all as bad as each other. It matters not who is in power, we're gonna get screwed, guaranteed.
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On 09/10/2012 01:14, brass monkey wrote:

Isn't the point that, in his view, the Tories don't even manage to say all the right things?
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