Gas valve turns off and on again while boiler is running

My boiler is working (it's heating the water that goes through it), but something isn't right with it because quite often I can hear the main gas valve turn off, and then on again about half a second later, while the boiler is running.

It's due for a service, so hopefully the engineer will be able to work out what's wrong when he comes, but I was hoping I might get an idea of what to expect from the knowledgeable folks in this group. All my attempts at Googling for info on the problem have only turned up other kinds of problems, not mine.

By "quite often", I mean that it typically happens once or twice in the time between the boiler starting up and shutting off. They are usually isolated occurrences, but occasionally I've heard it happen two or three times in a row with a few seconds in between.

The flue fan stays running, and I think the pilot light is staying lit, as I don't hear the igniter spark, although I could be wrong if the spark happens at the same time as the valve turning off (the sound would be masked by the solenoid click). I tried watching the pilot light through the inspection window for several minutes until the boiler shut off, but as luck would have it the problem didn't occur while I was watching.

The boiler is a Potterton of some sort, rebadged by British Gas as a "Celsia F1", and is 15 years old. It had the main PCB replaced about three years ago, but other than that has not had any faults.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

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Geoff Clare
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In article , Geoff Clare writes

That is not a boiler I am familiar with.

Are you sure it is turning off as it could just be modulating down.

Some older boilers can modulate their output but only step between high and low rather that the continuously variable modulation of modern boilers. The noise you are hearing may just be the modulation solenoid switching between high and low which would be normal if it had been running for some time. Even switching the burner off completely may just be the boiler thermostat reaching temperature and shutting down the flame.

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fred

Friend had a pretty ancient boiler (fixed pilot light job) that did the same sort of thing. Turned out to be a dodgy connection to the gas valve (either the external wire or the internal one to the actuator coil, I forget now.) Quick fix and didn't do it again.

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Scott M

It looks very similar to these:

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if that's any help.

I can hear the characteristic soft "whump" of the gas igniting after the valve opens again.

That sounds like normal operation for such boilers - which means it would have been doing that all along, but it has only started doing it in the last few months.

Okay, but then it would be odd for it only to be off for half a second.

What normally seems to happen when the thermostat reaches temperature is both valves (main burner and pilot light) close and the fan stops, so just the pump (which is located elsewhere) is left running. Then when the circulating water has cooled enough, the boiler starts up again (fan first, then pilot light, then main burner).

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Geoff Clare

I'm starting to think that maybe I'm wrong about the pilot light staying lit. If the pilot light went out, it seems plausible that the control box would turn off the main gas valve and immediately re-light the pilot light. The short time delay between the valve starting to close and the click when it closes could mean that the click masks the sound of the spark that lights the pilot light.

Does that make sense?

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Geoff Clare

You might want to start a new thread - I only looked in as I was looking for an old post somewhere.

I don't think a pilot lights would relight anywhere near that quickly after they've been running, too much polluted air round them.

Assuming you've checked the gas valve connections, next stop is the thermocouple. It could be signs of one that's getting a bit marginal.

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Scott M

Hi Goeoff, I am having a similar problem with my Potterton boiler, it was intermittant like yours, but now its happening all the time. Did you find out what was causing it? Any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards. Paul

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pglondon6

we last saw him here about 5 years ago. Feel free to give us more details of your problem.

NT

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tabbypurr

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