Fuel cells in power tools

Just received the new Toolstation catalogue this morning, and notice that they are plugging a new nail gun powered by fuel cells:

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hadn't realised that fuel cells had reached the powertool market yet - are they widespread? Are these things going to take over from standard rechargeable batteries?

I don't really know how this technology works, but why does the above tool come with a "1.5hr charger" and "two batteries" ?

David

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Lobster
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Isn't that just a gas canister rather than a genuine fuel cell?

Styx

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Styx

They are genine fuel cells run from gas. The smallest is tiny and can run laptops and mobile phones and the likes, but not yet fully on the market.

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Doctor Drivel

More on them:

The Guinness Book of Records: The world's smallest fuel cell, made by Toshiba. The direct methanol fuel cell is just 2.2cm by 5.6cm and is 0.45cm thick.

I read there was smaller one about the size of a thumb nail.

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Doctor Drivel

They are not fuel cells, they are fuel in a "cell" that is a battery sized container of butane gas. The clue is the "piezo electric ignition". Nailers like this work like a car engine, a fuel/air mix is ignited by a spark driving a piston down to whack int he nail.

It's a c*ck up on their part. It doesn't come with either charger or batteries.

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Steve Firth

Bullshit, and once again you prove your ability to read catalogues and press releases and completely misunderstand them.

That's "not yet fully on the market" as in "not on the market".

The fuel cell you provide a link to does not run on gas, it runs on methanol. If you look it says so clearly in the news item. Methanol for those who are hard of thinking is not a gas it is a liquid at room temperature and a further clue in the text is the reference to a 99% solution.

It's also worth noting that the run time for powering a mobile phone is given as 8 hours, which doesn't compare well to a LiIon cell int he same application, nor does the size of the cell which is larger than the phone it powers. So Drivel must be working to some new concept of "tiny".

Al of which is irrelevant to the nail gun in question which does not use an electrical fuel cell, but instead uses a "fuel cell" in the same way that cordless heated curling tongs use a "fuel cell". i.e. the manufacturer creates a container of butane gas which has a proprietary design so that the user must obtain more "cells" from the same source at inflated prices.

FWIW, an 11cfm compressor and a air nailer of the same spec will cost less than that nail gun.

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Steve Firth

Nah, that was a reference to your brain.

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Steve Firth

Don't be silly. It's just adspeak. Unless you think something this radical would really appear first - DIY wise - on a nailer...

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Dave Plowman (News)

Sad isn't it. Full of wit eh.

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Doctor Drivel

Sad isn't it. Very sad.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

All this world cup excitement has gone to his head. Sad isn't it.

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Doctor Drivel

What is sad is yet again you've read into an ad something that simply isn't so. That's why ad writers are so ambiguous - there are always gullible types like you around...

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Dave Plowman (News)

< it must be nearly cocoa time for him>

Sad isn't it.

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Doctor Drivel

Yup, nothing to do with fuel cells used to produce electrcity. Looks like a version of the gas nailer more normally made popular by Paslode.

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John Rumm

Yeah right!

Stick to flags dribble boy.

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John Rumm

Chav, thank you.

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Doctor Drivel

Stupidity, yours, sad, very. Fuckwit are you.

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Steve Firth

I suppose it's possible that the nailer in question uses a rechargeable batter to generate the spark to fire the gas, as does the Paslode. However in that case the ad is incorrect to refer to a piezo electric spark.

I reckon the ad was written by dribble, it's bad enough to be one of his efforts.

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Steve Firth

Shitkicker, what babble. I'm he's top poster too.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

Anyone care to hazard a guess as to the meaning of this?

It does serve a warning about the dangers of substance abuse, though - the apostrophe is one of the first things to suffer.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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